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--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sidney Kaiser <s9kaiser@xxxx> wrote:
> At 04:41 PM 04/13/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> 
> > > Are you going to post it in the other forum or drop the 
subject ?
> >
> >Fred,
> >
> >Think about it. You're the only one who has shown any interest at 
all
> >in the subject of Real World Trading using Amibroker... and you 
don't
> >trade stocks! Go figure ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >Phsst
> 
> This may be a duplicate...sorry.  The original never came back in 
my e-mail.
> 
> 
> Well, count me in the camp that is interested in trading system 
design and 
> evaluation.
> 
> I have designed or evaluated hundreds of systems over the years.  
Unlike 
> Fred I have not come across something I can trade successfully year 
in and 
> year out ... still looking.  I am not very creative with thinking 
up clever 
> ways to improve result but I do have a dogged persistence that is 
useful in 
> testing, debugging and evaluating systems.
> 
> I usually do not jump into the trading system discussions because I 
would 
> come off as being too negative.  I have made most of the available 
mistakes 
> and found the most of the flaws in the usual system candidates.
> 
> What I find interesting is simple effective trading ideas.
> 
> At one time I thought testing baskets of stocks might lead to more 
robust 
> system parameters but it appears that what I get is mediocre 
performance 
> from parameters that do not work well with any securities.  Back to 
the 
> drawing board....
> 
> As Ken Close has found, most systems are excessively curve fit and 
fail 
> quickly once the optimization period has ended.  One of the things 
that 
> might be of high value to AB users would be to generate some code 
that 
> would simplify out of sample testing.  With the latest AB version 
perhaps 
> it would be possible to select and optimize over one period and 
then have 
> the code move on to a selected OOS period and output those results 
in 
> addition to the optimization results.  Also a easier interface, 
perhaps an 
> Excel macro, to ease the data manipulation to generate the 3-d 
parameter 
> sensitivity plots.  A third item that would be nice to have is the 
ability 
> to optimize on some parameter other than maximum profit.  Fred's 
MAR or 
> something that takes into consideration max consecutive losers, max 
draw 
> down over some specified period of time like weekly DD , or ???  
These wish 
> list items would require some help from someone who is a good 
programmer, 
> which I am not.
> 
> Bottom line, there is a demand for trading systems ideas and 
sharing of 
> those ideas that might benefit many of the quiet AB users if we can 
just 
> get a little momentum going here.
> 
> Sid  
> 
> 
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