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Phsst,

I disagree. It is not practical in the real world to use extremely 
tight stops.  When you place stop loss orders the specialists by 
definition must know where they are and it's very easy for them to 
take the price of the stock down to where you order is, stop you out 
and then continue on.  This is how they make their living. 

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "phsst" <phsst@xxxx> wrote:
> Fred,
> 
> You are correct.
> 
> And while I did not articulate it very well, dd info in AB should 
not
> be taken for granted.
> 
> The most accurate trading systems developed in AB are those which
> include STOPS so tight that the intra-trade variations in price are
> accounted for in the exit stradegy.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phsst
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Fred Tonetti <ftonetti@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > Phsst & Others interested in this subject,
> > 
> > One of the problems with taking information from even a detailed 
report
> > in AB and exporting it to a CSV and then in turn importing into 
Excel is
> > that although it will properly show the Entry Date & Price and 
Exit Date
> > & Price, it does not show prices of whatever it is that's being 
traded
> > during the bars in between the entry and exit, therefore there is 
no way
> > using a methodology like that to come up with semi-accurate 
numbers for
> > drawdowns .
> > 
> > Example .
> > 
> > For simplicity I used Pring's KST system trading AA i.e. only one 
stock
> > ...
> > 
> > As one can see from the report below there was a 7.1% CAR and 
36.71%
> > drawdown on a close to close basis.
> > 
> > In looking at the Equity Line in the graph (attached)  one can 
see here
> > too that there were the same results.
> >  
> > But if one does a copy of the actual detail trade information and 
paste
> > into Excel (See Attached) and adds columns for max equity and 
drawdown%
> > and then at the bottom of the column takes the maximum of 
drawdown%, the
> > result shows an incorrectly low 27.67%.  The reason of course is 
that
> > the detailed report from AB and thus Excel does not show what 
happened
> > during the course of time that individual trades were being held.
> > 
> > In looking at what is in the AB reports when multiple stocks are 
traded
> > some of which could be simultaneously or overlapping investments 
there
> > are several problems.
> > 
> > 1.	AB apparently assumes that one must have enough capital to buy
> > say $10k of every stock in the run and so it forces initial 
equity to be
> > higher then it needs to be.
> > 2.	AB reports as MaxDD what is the MaxDD for one stock trade and
> > although in some way this may be useful information it overstates 
what
> > MaxDD is for the account.  Beyond this though and given what 
information
> > is available in the detailed report trading only one stock, it 
would not
> > be possible to export all the trades for multiple stocks and get 
a semi
> > clear picture of what Returns or MaxDD for the system is.  This 
would
> > have to be done using a different methodology, probably utilizing 
an
> > exploration.


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