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Jayson,
The conversation has moved on a little from the original topic.
If you want to perform indepth studies of particular tickers (which take months and years to built up), where you have many custom indicators against a particular ticker (designed for that ticker, Parameters, Colors, Line thickness etc etc etc), this is currently not an intuitive process or easy thing to maintain in AB. It's really nice to have the ability to go back to a ticker and know that it is going to have all the indicators exactly how you left them last time.
Now obviously people work in different ways and if you do and your happy with current functionality then fine but this is something that has been really difficult to work with and i've tried. Even with layouts it still is a messy process, it all needs to be linked to the ticker (as a option of course).
I think it is always in Tomaszs' interest to hear about the ways people need to work with charts...whether he agrees or not or decides to do anything about it is something entirely different.
Regards,
William Peters.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jayson [mailto:jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday 8 March, 2003 1:44 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] RE: Problems with param function on multiple sheets
There are certainly two sides to each coin. I normally have 3 to 4 charts
open in real time at any given moment. I find it comforting to know that
when I make a change that it is reflected across all my open charts. It is
too easy to get subtracted and find that I have forgotten to change one
chart. If my application uses two different views I can always copy paste a
second custom indicator and adjust parameters there. I think once Tomasz
solves the problem that began this discussion (two custom indicators both
using RSI) and allows us to independently adjust the two custom indicators
that we will have a superior tool to the MS approach.
Jayson
-----Original Message-----
From: William Peters [mailto:williampeters1@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:35 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] RE: Problems with param function on multiple sheets
To add to the discussion:
I've often felt the need for the type of fuctionality that Bob speaks about.
It's the way that I work with charting and tickers, by setting up indicators
that are customised (parameters are slightly different) to a particular
stock(ticker) and applying those against that ticker. At the moment each
time I have to create a new indicator and from a users POV this is a little
awkward and unweildly to maintain, but not only that there is the problem
that the DISPLAY of indicators are not ticker specific so you are required
to have all those indicators open while viewing a ticker where you are only
really interested in viewing the indicators for that stock. This is the way
I need to work and found that this functionality which is in MS is the ONLY
thing I miss greatly in Amibroker.
Regards,
William Peters.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tomasz Janeczko [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday 8 March, 2003 11:43 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [amibroker] Problems with param function on multiple
sheets
Bob,
No it has nothing to do with liking or disliking inheritance.
It is about usability and quick operation in real time mode.
I don't like the fact that when I have 8 windows open in Real Time
and want to change parameter for ALL open windows
I have to do this EIGHT times in MS while I need
only ONE change in AmiBroker.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Jagow" <bjagow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [amibroker] Problems with param function on multiple
sheets
> You don't like inheritance, Tomasz?
> Can we put it to a vote?
>
> Regards,
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomasz Janeczko [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:28 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [amibroker] Problems with param function on multiple
> sheets
>
>
> Bob,
>
> For me just the opposite. I don't like the way MS works.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Jagow" <bjagow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:05 PM
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [amibroker] Problems with param function on multiple
> sheets
>
>
> > Will the 'current design' ever change, Tomasz?
> > If I apply a Metastock indicator to a pane, a dialog box opens with
> > settable parameters.
> > If I apply that Metastock indicator to a different pane or window ,
> the
> > dialog box allows new parameters specific to that instance.
> >
> > For me, that is a much preferable design.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tomasz Janeczko [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:45 PM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [amibroker] Problems with param function on
> multiple
> > sheets
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > This is not bug and this is not pointless - it allows you to quickly
> > modify the parameter
> > FOR ALL windows. Say you display 4 windows with different symbols.
> > Current design allows to change the parameter in all 4 windows at
> once.
> >
> > With separate setting for each window you would need to modify
> > parameter for each window - this would be indeed pointless.
> >
> > With current design you can have separate params if you have separate
> > formulas. Just make a copy and you are done.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John" <jr-sw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [amibroker] Problems with param function on
> multiple
> > sheets
> >
> >
> > > Thomas,
> > >
> > > IMO this is a bug. Each time you use an indicator you should be able
> > to
> > > specify whatever parameter values you require - it's a bit pointless
> > > otherwise. Another related problem you have probably noticed is that
> > AB does
> > > not allow more than one instance of the same custom indicator in a
> > sheet (it
> > > does allow builtin indicators more than once though). Suggest you
> send
> > to TJ
> > > at the bug report address.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas Zmuck" <thomas.zm@xxxxxx>
> > > To: "Jayson" <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re[2]: [amibroker] Problems with param function on multiple
> > sheets
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello Jayson,
> > > >
> > > > I have tried it exactly as you described but i still have the same
> > > > problem. I have seen that i can open the parameters for the other
> > > > indicator only when i click to apply in indicator builder.
> > > > Otherwise i have in every sheet the parameters from the last use.
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, make i something wrong?
> > > >
> > > > Anyway thanks.
> > > >
> > > > I hope you have a idea.
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Friday, March 7, 2003, 10:45:36 PM, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > J> Thomas,
> > > > J> To do this you would need to create 4 different custom codes
> > > >
> > > > J> indicator 1
> > > > J> indicator 2
> > > > J> indicator 3
> > > > J> indicator 4
> > > >
> > > > J> Each could be adjusted independently though each would adjust
> > across
> > > > J> multiple charts. By that I mean if you have 3 charts open
> > adjusting the
> > > > J> param setting of indicator 4 on tab 3 will adjust all the tab 3
> > > settings in
> > > > J> each of the 3 open charts
> > > >
> > > > J> Jayson
> > > > J> -----Original Message-----
> > > > J> From: Thomas Zmuck [mailto:thomas.zm@xxxxxx]
> > > > J> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:31 PM
> > > > J> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > J> Subject: [amibroker] Problems with param function on multiple
> > sheets
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > J> Hello,
> > > >
> > > > J> i have troubles to use the param function in multiple sheets.
> > > > J> I have saved two indicators separately, but when i enter CTRL+R
> > than i
> > > > J> can select only the param from the other indicator.
> > > >
> > > > J> Any help is much appreciated !
> > > >
> > > > J> I simple want to use my formula in four sheets and so with 4x
> > param
> > > > J> function.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > J> --
> > > > J> Best regards,
> > > > J> Thomas mailto:thomas.zm@xxxxxx
> > > >
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