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[amibroker] Re: Same day signals



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Steve,

You are entitled to your opinion but I do this EVERY DAY.

As I said however, I do NOT trade stocks or ETF's, with MF's this is 
a non issue as the trade is either recorded before 4:00 or it isn't.

Fred

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Fred,
> 
> I sure don't doubt that you can execute during the closing seconds 
of any
> bell.  I've been "wired" into a floor broker and I have still ended 
up on
> the wrong side of the signal (sometimes the closes "shake out" at 
shocking
> levels...the old "imbalance of orders" thing).  I've found openings 
to be
> much more "orderly".  Some mean reversion oscillatory approaches 
benefit
> from positive slippage...so, the opening of the next day is usually 
a better
> price than the close of today (for those types of systems).
> 
> The more piles you trade and the more diversified you are among 
those
> piles...the more execution becomes an issue.  If anyone feels 
comfortable
> executing on the close, they should certainly do it.   I've danced 
this
> dangerous edge in many successful approaches.  Lot's of pressure, 
you must
> be there with your finger on the trigger, you must make the right 
decision
> in a short period of time and most importantly, your action needs 
to echo
> the signal.  If the close is not what you thought it was going to 
be...then
> you've compromised your system.
> 
> Thanks for stimulating ideas.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <fctonetti@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:41 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Same day signals
> 
> 
> > I don't trade stocks or etf's for that matter because the DD's on 
any
> > system I've ever written or seen or just TOO big for my stomach, 
but
> > QQQ trades for a loooooong while after NDX is finished for the 
day.
> >
> > As for the mechanics of trade executions with what I do trade, 
last
> > time to trade is 4:00 PM eastern and I NEVER have trouble getting
> > trades filled with < 10 seconds to go.
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CedarCreekTrading" 
<kernish@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > Fred sez:
> > > Yes, see the settings, this is how the system is set up and 
PLEASE
> > > don't tell me it's not possible especially with QQQ when the
> > driving
> > > datastream is NDX.
> > >
> > > Fred,
> > >
> > > One last point about any system that trades the same day the 
signal
> > is created.  Folks should be aware that: yes, one can trade the 
QQQ's
> > while monitoring the NDX (or anything that calls for entry on the
> > close of the day the signal is created).  However, this can cause 
a
> > huge execution problem:
> > >
> > > If your formula is hovering at or near a trigger level and you
> > enter a trade before the actual close (because you must enter the
> > trade before the close or you don't "get" the close)...you run the
> > risk of being on the wrong side of the trade (due to the "action" 
in
> > the closing minutes).
> > >
> > > Am I missing something about your executions?
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> >
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