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Re: [amibroker] Trends, random series



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Chande himself tested synthetic data extensively. 
Here's what he did. He tested a system on a continuous contract Swiss francand 
then generated 8 series of synthetic data from this real continuous contract 
with the following conclusions:
 
1- 
Performance can vary significantly for 
different synthetic data series for the same market (stock) which comes as no 
surprise. He advises to generate 5 - 10 series for the same market and average 
the results. The average results are a very good approximation of the results on 
the original data set
2-
One can use the standard deviation and other 
statistical parameters to estimate future drawdowns, risc of ruin calculations 
and expected
future performance. The same 'boundary conditions' 
as to real data remain, i.e. it are merely estimates.
 
He also describes one limitation of scrambled data. 
The new patterns are synthetic and as such cannot represent real market 
psychology and real supply and demand. Many test (like the one described above) 
suggest that these limitations can be overcome by using average
system performance on synthetic data.
 
Regards
Leo
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Subject: Re: [amibroker] Trends, random 
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This is a fun discussion. 
Bill, you said "But once in a while is not good enough, as a result the 
general applicability of Chande's approach is questionable, although as I 
noted it might be OK for non-pattern based indicators (e.g., MACD, etc.)." 
Perhaps you are right about that. I don't know. I would ask, however, how 
you define "once in awhile." You can be a successful trader with a systemthat 
generates only 20% winners if the system being traded is a positive expectancy 
system (i.e., if the avg win/avg loss ratio is high enough). I'm convinced 
that money management is the key (Holy Grail, if you will) to success in 
trading. If you trade a system that gives you 80% losers, but those losses are 
tiny compared to the occasional huge winner, you can do quite well over the 
long run. It's going to take lots of intestinal fortitude to experience 80% 
losers, but I'm sure there are those out there who do. 
Look, all I'm saying is that the scrambler is just another tool that can be 
used by us in Amibroker. That's all. I'm not advocating trading random price 
patterns. I'm just saying that it might be useful to test your system on 
synthetic data. After I've done it, I'll report back and let you guys know 
what happened. Like I said, I'm willing to eat Markov monkey if I'm wrong.