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Tomasz

No I wasn't aware of that. I remembered that when I originally 
bought Amibroker that it wasn't possible for me to obtain historical 
UK quotes and I was not aware that this had changed. Will give it a 
try.


Stefan

--- In amibroker@xxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> Stefan,
> 
> Thank you for your answer. I agree that you and the others
> can undestand term "intraday" differently then I.
> 
> As for downloading quotes from markets different that US -
> maybe you don't know it but it is prefectly possible with AmiQuote.
> If just select "historical" mode, leave "Country" set to "USA"
> and enter your tickers.
> For example tickes from London Exch:
> 
> EKV.L
> ELM.L
> FIG.L
> 
> and click download - historical quotes are downloaded.
> Actually AmiQuote supports EXACTLY the same number of markets.
> There is no magic here DataBull also uses only Yahoo Finance 
servers.
> When I originally wrote AmiQuote Yahoo didn't provide historical
> data for other exchanges but not it provides them.
> You may check ANY ticker found in DataBull program and it will
> work in AmiQuote (with country set to USA)
> 
> It is your decision what you are using. I want just to provide a 
clear picture.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sbondorowicz" <stefan@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:15 PM
> Subject: DataBull was: Re: [amibroker] Re: Emulating eSignal RT via 
QuoteTracker.
> 
> 
> >From my end of day perspective I used the term intraday and it is
> this which you seem to find objectionable. I have no interest in
> real-time ticks which happened within a particular minute of time.
> What I wanted was bars of data which occurred within the trading 
day,
> snapshots yes but still intraday from my point of view. If you wish
> to reserve the term intraday for a particular usage by all means do
> so but this does not necessarily mean that others must follow. If
> you have a problem with Databull and its advertising policies please
> take it up with them, its not my problem.
> 
> I originally looked at Databull because it overcame a limitation 
with
> Amiquote in that it gave me access to historical data for markets
> other than the US. The fact that I could then update the last bar 
of
> data in my charts with the current snapshot was an added bonus.
> 
> Since you have decided to disparage the Databull product in order to
> save the subscribers of this list from wasting time and money I will
> state my opinion formed after actually evaluating the product. If
> like me you want to research a number of international markets, and
> obtain historical data for them, then the product seems to be worth
> the price. With it I have bee able to construct a 5 year historical
> database of a selection of UK, German & Italian stocks and to keep
> the database easily updated. For my research purposes this has 
saved
> me a great deal of time and trouble and so I would hardly class it
> has a waste of money. End of review!
> 
> I originally mentioned this product in the same way I have mentioned
> Amibroker on a number of lists and newsgroups. Since this kind of
> thing seenms to make you unhappy I will stop doing that also.
> 
> Dr Stefan Bondorowicz
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> > Stefan,
> >
> > In the response to "Emulating eSignal RT via QuoteTracker"
> > you wrote:
> > "If you are willing to settle for 15 minute delayed intraday bars 
I
> > have been beta testing DataBull (http://www.databull.com/) which
> > will run intraday data straight into Amibroker"
> >
> > The key words here are "delayed intraday bars".
> >
> > DataBull does NOT provide intraday bars.
> >
> > It provides just the same as Current mode of AmiQuote does -
> > snapshots of the most recent quote during the day (15/20 min
> delayed).
> >
> > Updating this way you are still getting ONE bar per day.
> >
> > By ANY MEANS it can NOT be compared to Real Time or even delayed
> > intraday feed as eSignal or Quote.com, which will give you 1-
minute
> bars
> > for example with each bar composed out of real trade ticks that
> happened
> > during this single minute.
> >
> > I wrote my answer to clear up the confusion.
> >
> > I did that to save people (the subscribers of this list) from
> wasting time and money
> > on the program that does NOT provide advertised INTRADAY bars.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sbondorowicz" <stefan@xxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 12:32 PM
> > Subject: DataBull was: Re: [amibroker] Re: Emulating eSignal RT 
via
> QuoteTracker.
> >
> >
> > Tomasz
> >
> > If enlightenment is what you want I would suggest you go and see
> Yoda
> > and ask him to tell you about the Force. I am not in the
> > enlightenment business.
> >
> > All I did was mention something I had been beta-testing because it
> > seemed to fill a hole in my data needs and I thought it might help
> > someone else. So whats your problem?
> >
> > Basically I wanted something which I could schedule to download
> the
> > latest snapshot of some UK data and automatically update Amibroker
> > and a couple of other packages. Databull did this for me, so end
> of
> > story.
> >
> > If Amiquote does this fine. I am not getting involved in a turf
> war
> > for data downloaders. I have no interest in RT or true x minute
> > intraday bars only in being able to obtain a snapshot of the 
market
> > at various times of the day.
> >
> > If you have to be ready with a 2000 word justification for 
anything
> > posted to this group it would seem that the best course of action
> > would be to remain silent.
> >
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Stefan,
> > >
> > > Please enlighten me - as far as I can see the DataBull downloads
> > > quotes ONLY from Yahoo Finanec servers. Exactly like FREEWARE
> > AmiQuote.
> > >
> > > I can not see ANY POSSIBILITY to download intraday 1-minute or 
5-
> > minute or 15- minute
> > > BARS in DataBull program.
> > >
> > > Their "intraday" are just snapshots exactly like "Current" mode
> in
> > AmiQuote.
> > >
> > > All I can see is that this program duplicates functionality of
> > AmiQuote (Freeware).
> > >
> > > So please enlighten me - what I am missing?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "sbondorowicz" <stefan@xxxx>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:32 PM
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Emulating eSignal RT via QuoteTracker.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > If you are willing to settle for 15 minute delayed intraday 
bars I
> > > have been beta testing DataBull (http://www.databull.com/) which
> > will
> > > run intraday data straight into Amibroker. Seems to work very
> well
> > > and they only charge a one off fee as they collect the data from
> > free
> > > web sources.
> > >
> > > Stefan
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxx, Mike Pham <mmqp@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Tomasz,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for clearing this up. You're right about the
> > > > backfill datas which neither QT nor Datek provide; I
> > > > guess that's what you get for free. At the moment RT
> > > > quote from eSignal seems a bit overkill for me since
> > > > I'm not a day trader; However the intraday datas is
> > > > what I really need. I've heard people mentioning
> > > > about Intraday Datas with AB. I have to investigate
> > > > more to see if this is all I need. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Tomasz Janeczko <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am aware of Quote Tracker and it was discussed
> > > > > some time ago
> > > > > on this list. It is not that easy.
> > > > > The problem is that QT can not be considered as
> > > > > "true" RT feed.
> > > > > It does not provide streaming data to the outside
> > > > > programs.
> > > > > Data provided by QT's HTTP built-in server
> > > > > are snapshots taken every given period. This is not
> > > > > the only problem.
> > > > > eSignal supplies not only most recent quote
> > > > > but also historical tick or bar data. QuoteTracker
> > > > > does not offer
> > > > > historical tick or bar data.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > > amibroker.com
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Mike Pham" <mmqp@xxxx>
> > > > > To: <amibroker@xxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 6:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Emulating eSignal RT via
> > > > > QuoteTracker.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Greg,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think NAQ is a paid subscription if i'm correct.
> > > > > > Let me explain my idea why I want to go this
> > > > > route:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - I have Datek as broker acct.
> > > > > > - I have been using QuoteTracker as
> > > > > > portfolio/streamer/RT charts type. Apparently
> > > > > > QuoteTracker stores ticks (per 10sec?) in a
> > > > > temporary
> > > > > > files. This realtime datas (upto 80 symbols per
> > > > > Datek
> > > > > > allowance) can be accessed using QuoteTracker HTTP
> > > > > > protocol which they gave a spec to me (it's public
> > > > > > information anyway.)
> > > > > > - I'd like to know if we can import this last
> > > > > quote
> > > > > > and insert into AB realtime/intraday database.
> > > > > Voila!
> > > > > > We would have similar RT as eSignal feed.
> > > > > > - The reason I want to go this route is because
> > > > > Datek
> > > > > > gives this realtime for free as an account holder.
> > > > > > Second, QuoteTracker works with more than 50
> > > > > > institution US and internationally. Perhalf this
> > > > > > might be an interest to Tomasz as kind of "one
> > > > > stone
> > > > > > kills many bird"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- greg <greg.bean@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was wondering if NAQ might have something to
> > > > > offer
> > > > > > > us. I posted about it before . Tomasz didn't
> > > > > reply
> > > > > > > although Avcinci did on 21/04/02. Another
> > > > > > > possibility would be through the MyTrader
> > > > > program
> > > > > > > info is pasted below the NAQ information. I have
> > > > > > > downloaded 1 min data from the MyTrader program.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > think that 10 days is the maximun download. It's
> > > > > > > awkward and labour intensive, but it works. Let
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > know if you think there are any good
> > > > > possibilities
> > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:17:18 PM
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