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Stefan,
Thank you for your answer. I agree that you and the others
can undestand term "intraday" differently then I.
As for downloading quotes from markets different that US -
maybe you don't know it but it is prefectly possible with AmiQuote.
If just select "historical" mode, leave "Country" set to "USA"
and enter your tickers.
For example tickes from London Exch:
EKV.L
ELM.L
FIG.L
and click download - historical quotes are downloaded.
Actually AmiQuote supports EXACTLY the same number of markets.
There is no magic here DataBull also uses only Yahoo Finance servers.
When I originally wrote AmiQuote Yahoo didn't provide historical
data for other exchanges but not it provides them.
You may check ANY ticker found in DataBull program and it will
work in AmiQuote (with country set to USA)
It is your decision what you are using. I want just to provide a clear picture.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "sbondorowicz" <stefan@xxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:15 PM
Subject: DataBull was: Re: [amibroker] Re: Emulating eSignal RT via QuoteTracker.
>>From my end of day perspective I used the term intraday and it is
this which you seem to find objectionable. I have no interest in
real-time ticks which happened within a particular minute of time.
What I wanted was bars of data which occurred within the trading day,
snapshots yes but still intraday from my point of view. If you wish
to reserve the term intraday for a particular usage by all means do
so but this does not necessarily mean that others must follow. If
you have a problem with Databull and its advertising policies please
take it up with them, its not my problem.
I originally looked at Databull because it overcame a limitation with
Amiquote in that it gave me access to historical data for markets
other than the US. The fact that I could then update the last bar of
data in my charts with the current snapshot was an added bonus.
Since you have decided to disparage the Databull product in order to
save the subscribers of this list from wasting time and money I will
state my opinion formed after actually evaluating the product. If
like me you want to research a number of international markets, and
obtain historical data for them, then the product seems to be worth
the price. With it I have bee able to construct a 5 year historical
database of a selection of UK, German & Italian stocks and to keep
the database easily updated. For my research purposes this has saved
me a great deal of time and trouble and so I would hardly class it
has a waste of money. End of review!
I originally mentioned this product in the same way I have mentioned
Amibroker on a number of lists and newsgroups. Since this kind of
thing seenms to make you unhappy I will stop doing that also.
Dr Stefan Bondorowicz
--- In amibroker@xxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> Stefan,
>
> In the response to "Emulating eSignal RT via QuoteTracker"
> you wrote:
> "If you are willing to settle for 15 minute delayed intraday bars I
> have been beta testing DataBull (http://www.databull.com/) which
> will run intraday data straight into Amibroker"
>
> The key words here are "delayed intraday bars".
>
> DataBull does NOT provide intraday bars.
>
> It provides just the same as Current mode of AmiQuote does -
> snapshots of the most recent quote during the day (15/20 min
delayed).
>
> Updating this way you are still getting ONE bar per day.
>
> By ANY MEANS it can NOT be compared to Real Time or even delayed
> intraday feed as eSignal or Quote.com, which will give you 1-minute
bars
> for example with each bar composed out of real trade ticks that
happened
> during this single minute.
>
> I wrote my answer to clear up the confusion.
>
> I did that to save people (the subscribers of this list) from
wasting time and money
> on the program that does NOT provide advertised INTRADAY bars.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sbondorowicz" <stefan@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 12:32 PM
> Subject: DataBull was: Re: [amibroker] Re: Emulating eSignal RT via
QuoteTracker.
>
>
> Tomasz
>
> If enlightenment is what you want I would suggest you go and see
Yoda
> and ask him to tell you about the Force. I am not in the
> enlightenment business.
>
> All I did was mention something I had been beta-testing because it
> seemed to fill a hole in my data needs and I thought it might help
> someone else. So whats your problem?
>
> Basically I wanted something which I could schedule to download
the
> latest snapshot of some UK data and automatically update Amibroker
> and a couple of other packages. Databull did this for me, so end
of
> story.
>
> If Amiquote does this fine. I am not getting involved in a turf
war
> for data downloaders. I have no interest in RT or true x minute
> intraday bars only in being able to obtain a snapshot of the market
> at various times of the day.
>
> If you have to be ready with a 2000 word justification for anything
> posted to this group it would seem that the best course of action
> would be to remain silent.
>
>
> Stefan
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> > Stefan,
> >
> > Please enlighten me - as far as I can see the DataBull downloads
> > quotes ONLY from Yahoo Finanec servers. Exactly like FREEWARE
> AmiQuote.
> >
> > I can not see ANY POSSIBILITY to download intraday 1-minute or 5-
> minute or 15- minute
> > BARS in DataBull program.
> >
> > Their "intraday" are just snapshots exactly like "Current" mode
in
> AmiQuote.
> >
> > All I can see is that this program duplicates functionality of
> AmiQuote (Freeware).
> >
> > So please enlighten me - what I am missing?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sbondorowicz" <stefan@xxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:32 PM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Emulating eSignal RT via QuoteTracker.
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > If you are willing to settle for 15 minute delayed intraday bars I
> > have been beta testing DataBull (http://www.databull.com/) which
> will
> > run intraday data straight into Amibroker. Seems to work very
well
> > and they only charge a one off fee as they collect the data from
> free
> > web sources.
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxx, Mike Pham <mmqp@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Tomasz,
> > >
> > > Thanks for clearing this up. You're right about the
> > > backfill datas which neither QT nor Datek provide; I
> > > guess that's what you get for free. At the moment RT
> > > quote from eSignal seems a bit overkill for me since
> > > I'm not a day trader; However the intraday datas is
> > > what I really need. I've heard people mentioning
> > > about Intraday Datas with AB. I have to investigate
> > > more to see if this is all I need. Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Tomasz Janeczko <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I am aware of Quote Tracker and it was discussed
> > > > some time ago
> > > > on this list. It is not that easy.
> > > > The problem is that QT can not be considered as
> > > > "true" RT feed.
> > > > It does not provide streaming data to the outside
> > > > programs.
> > > > Data provided by QT's HTTP built-in server
> > > > are snapshots taken every given period. This is not
> > > > the only problem.
> > > > eSignal supplies not only most recent quote
> > > > but also historical tick or bar data. QuoteTracker
> > > > does not offer
> > > > historical tick or bar data.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > amibroker.com
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mike Pham" <mmqp@xxxx>
> > > > To: <amibroker@xxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 6:51 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Emulating eSignal RT via
> > > > QuoteTracker.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think NAQ is a paid subscription if i'm correct.
> > > > > Let me explain my idea why I want to go this
> > > > route:
> > > > >
> > > > > - I have Datek as broker acct.
> > > > > - I have been using QuoteTracker as
> > > > > portfolio/streamer/RT charts type. Apparently
> > > > > QuoteTracker stores ticks (per 10sec?) in a
> > > > temporary
> > > > > files. This realtime datas (upto 80 symbols per
> > > > Datek
> > > > > allowance) can be accessed using QuoteTracker HTTP
> > > > > protocol which they gave a spec to me (it's public
> > > > > information anyway.)
> > > > > - I'd like to know if we can import this last
> > > > quote
> > > > > and insert into AB realtime/intraday database.
> > > > Voila!
> > > > > We would have similar RT as eSignal feed.
> > > > > - The reason I want to go this route is because
> > > > Datek
> > > > > gives this realtime for free as an account holder.
> > > > > Second, QuoteTracker works with more than 50
> > > > > institution US and internationally. Perhalf this
> > > > > might be an interest to Tomasz as kind of "one
> > > > stone
> > > > > kills many bird"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- greg <greg.bean@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering if NAQ might have something to
> > > > offer
> > > > > > us. I posted about it before . Tomasz didn't
> > > > reply
> > > > > > although Avcinci did on 21/04/02. Another
> > > > > > possibility would be through the MyTrader
> > > > program
> > > > > > info is pasted below the NAQ information. I have
> > > > > > downloaded 1 min data from the MyTrader program.
> > > > I
> > > > > > think that 10 days is the maximun download. It's
> > > > > > awkward and labour intensive, but it works. Let
> > > > me
> > > > > > know if you think there are any good
> > > > possibilities
> > > > > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:17:18 PM
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