[RT] Re: [astrofin] Saturn transiting NYSE Mars, RealTraders Email List Archive

Hi Wood,

Transitting Saturn is bouncing along towards a conjunction with its position on the 1980 gold high
in the latter part of September. That month is usually interesting for the stock market too.

Though my models still point down and we may have a bad to tepid economy for the next couple
of years it seems to me things are getting somewhat overdone and for long term perspective plays
it may be time to start accumulation keeping in mind they could still easily halve or more in value.

Consider Alcoa (AA) for example. It is at its 1987 crash lows, down 90% from its high. It has ample
reserves in the ground. These have to be worth something again someday. Since 1970 it has never
had more than 1 1/2 years of decline at a time. It has had 1 1/2 years now. Unless the dividend is
changed or suspended it is yielding 10%. Metal producers (with the exception of fictitious ones which
AA is clearly not) going bankrupt is essentially unheard of.

ABK declined on the order of 99% and has already built a nice triangular base. It is either going to be
toilet paper soon or it has only one way to go over the coming years.

I'm reminded of something John Templeton said about how he made his fortune. He bought a large
basket of penny stocks knowing full well most would go bankrupt but counting on the survivors to
dramatically outperform. This strategy as most know earned him billions and he now sits on an island
trying to figure out how best to give his money away.

At the moment, with a bit of care, we could be doing the same thing not with penny stocks but with
established companies. $3000 for example buys a mixed basket of 3000 shares of AA, AIG, C, GM, and
GPS. Throw in F, GE, ABK, and a few others and the basket gets bigger and more diversified.

Perhaps a couple of these will fail. If so we'll be on course with what worked for John Templeton. If
they all fail the money we spent on them wouldn't be worth anything anyway so who cares.
Even if wrong some of these are so cheap we could roll em up and smoke em and not miss much and the
government seems to be guaranteeing some of them won't go to zero to boot. If it were Christmas we
could stuff them in the stockings like so many lottery tickets.

My constructive comment then is perhaps we shouldn't focus so much on where we're going in the
short term because it isn't all that good, at least yet. Perhaps instead we might ask ourselves what
we want to have in our longterm portfolios say five years from now. For all the problems we are setting
up for the buying opportunity of a lifetime. Keeping our powder dry doesn't do any good if we never again
pull the trigger.

Whatever happens over the coming months or even year or two it seems time to run our astro screens
on industries and then individual stocks within those, getting ready for what is likely coming relatively soon.
We may never get another chance like this again.

Suggestions of similar ticker symbols welcomed.

Cheers,
Darrin

To: astrofin@xxxxxxxxxxs.com; Orionsbelt@xxxxxxxxups.com
From: protonrick@xxxxxxcom
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:30:49 -0500
Subject: [astrofin] Saturn transiting NYSE Mars

Greetings. Back on 2008.11.17, I posted the first chart when transiting Saturn had just conjuncted the NYSE's natal Mars, bringing us all down in bearish negativity. But, also, transiting Jupiter was trining the NYSE's natal Mars. Just at the very lows of 2008, a Jupiterian influenced bullish bounce ensued, worth some 200 SPX points.

Saturn continued to go past NYSE natal Mars until it hit its station and reversed and came back. Today, as transiting Retrograde Saturn conjuncts the NYSE's natal Mars, we lost all those points, and more, as the target on the first chart was hit, making a new low for 2009. But today there is a decisive, definite, definitive difference in the way the world looks and feels, as expressed through the markets. Today the mitigating, optimistic Jupiterian influence is absent. Today the (not always, but indeed now) negative, restrictive, constraining, Dooms Day, Saturnine influence has many convinced that the end of the world is nigh. Perhaps so, although I hope not. I am personally tired of all the negatory bad news, and of all the deconstruction. I would favor some positive con-struction and I hope we don't have to wait until May 17, the anniversary of the Buttonwood Agreement in 1792 that established the NYSE, when Saturn coincidentally goes direct again. {Remember, Saturn is also the planet of building, structures, farming, and harvesting}

So we may expect a bounce here. But, sticking with the NYSE's natal Mars theme, we don't have another major tranisting aspect until 2009.03.09, when the transiting Sun conjuncts that NYSE natal Mars. Given that the Full Moon is the next day, and that there are significant transiting aspects to the Tokyo Stock Exchange's radix also, we may see another important day. And I hope it's a low...

Go Mercury. Wood