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Sorry to see you leave us Earl. I have always enforced our rules about non-topic mails but hey, he posted a copy of a Woolworth menu from a half century ago. It was interesting if not relevant. There was no hidden or political agenda. Most of the reason for sticking to trading topics is to keep us off politics and religion. If someone posted that they made a hole in one today or caught a 12 pound bass or had triplets I sure wouldn't complain. We are all traders but we are also all humans complete with human emotions and faults.
Bob.
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:10 AM, EAdamy < eadamy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What a crock ... you posted none of this on Realtraders!
Earl
Looking to the past is the doorway to the future. I don't remember who said it, but it is true. Here is what I posted in June. This was not a short term look at things as you stated but an objective for the price of oil at that time. You will probably say the comments were useless, but I don't feel they were. An exit at the target would have been called for. The entry price for the down move was hit on the attached chart. It was revised as things are dynamic, not static. You are quick to ridicule anyone that doesn't agree with you. As for the post not being relevant to trading, no it didn't give a specific trade, but it should have led some brighter ones to look at things that will benefit from inflation and things that will be hurt by inflation. No you wouldn't have made $18,000 on one contract, but $11 on one contract is nothing to sneeze at either.
Sunday, June 29th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Whether we want to believe it or not, our whole economy is oil dependant. OPEC now has complete control over our livelihood and our standard of living. If oil goes to $200 a barrel, where will we be? How many people will be able to commute to work? Will gasoline be $6, $7 or $8 a gallon or higher? Right now either China or one of the oil producing countries is buying up America. Where are the billions of dollars of funding coming from to save the investment banks and other troubled institutions? We complain a lot and yet what are we doing to solve the problem? We are producing ethanol, which is creating a bigger problem than the one we started with. It is easy to lay out the problems; the solutions are far more difficult. There are no easy answers to situation we let ourselves get into, but we must find the answers to survive. This is just one man's opinion.
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The August Crude Oil Futures Contract (CLQ8) closed the week at 140.90. Price finally broke above the congestion area and is moving toward the target price of $144. There is still upside pressure being applied to price. For price to start a retracement down from this level it would have to go through 137 and then the first price objective would be 132. The last time price went through the entry price for a retracement it failed to reach the first price objective.
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Momentum on the monthly chart has carried price above the target price of 135 and now that target price has become the entry price for a retracement down with the first price objective for the move down at 127. The next price objective for the move higher remains on the daily chart and then 145.20 on the weekly chart (not shown). There is upside pressure being applied to price at this level. It has been in the overextended area of this chart for months now with continued divergence at the high. There should be a break in this parabolic rise in prices some time soon, but I wouldn't put my money on a short position right now. It might pay to start getting protection for the long positions because if a real break occurs there could be a violent downdraft. The speculators will bail in a hurry and the end users will step aside until things settle down.
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: [RT] Fw: FW: *****SPAM***** Fw: Fw:]
But your wrong Anthony. He IS trying to sell us something. Not for $$, or for a product, but by trying to change our way of thinking and perception by presenting misleading, bogus and irrelevant information, so that we all end up agreeing with him how bad things are today, and oh boy, I wish I was back living in 1950 again. Also, if his post is harmless and can simply be deleted if it doesn't interest us, then you're wrong again. If we all agreed it was ok, and totally harmless, you then open the door to just about any email on anything from anyone. It opens the door to massive spamming in principle. Theoretically I could start sending an email everytime there was an uptick in the oil price, warning you of how bad things are and take heed. Of course it's harmless and you could just delete it.....but I dare say there comes a point where you say 'enough is enough' because clearly it would be an absurd situation. In the end it provides no uselfull information. And what is useful? Yes, there is a large subjective element there, but for some stuff we can safely say isn't useful.
Adrian
Mes amis,
Please permit me to take a contrary view to those expressed by hostmaster and Adrian Pitt.
Ira's message was received by me at 2:48 p.m. on Saturday, July 19, 2008.
I am not aware of any stock or commodities markets, other than the farmers' and flea markets, that are open on Saturday afternoon at least in North America. I rely upon you to correct me if I am wrong.
On the assumption that I am not wrong, at least in a broad sense, I therefore note, as an opening observation, Ira's message could not have impinged upon the crowded cerebral space of active traders during the trading day, except perhaps as to the purchase of carrots and celery and used CDs.
His post was harmless. It is in the same vein as some posts I receive from persons who are north of 70 or 80.
Ira did not attempt to sell anything. Insofar as I can discern, all he attempted to do was to share a feeling of ennui and angst at the predicament we find ourselves in as a result of the actions and/or misactions of our governments over the last half-century.
Whether one agrees with his viewpoint or not, he is entitled to speak his peace.
Trading in carrots and celery and used CDs will probably not be affected.
Anthony W. Pylypuk
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-----Original Message-----
From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ira
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 5:41 PM
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [RT] Fw: FW: *****SPAM***** Fw: Fw:]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: [Fwd: FW: *****SPAM***** Fw: Fw:]
I Started college in the spring of 1950. I got $110 a month from the GI bill and had no problem making ends meet with rent, food (hashed at a sorority), gas, a car and going out on dates. If you don't believe what inflation can do compare some of these prices from a real menu of the 1950s. The Korean and Vietnam wars started the escalation and now Iraq and Afghanistan will start the next set of inflation numbers. The government hasn't helped with its policies as to the financial markets, interest rates and the outrageous printing of money. It will be interesting to see what happens next. It ain't going to be pretty.
If any of you have doubt about what we paid for a coke and a sandwich at Woolworths in the 1950's, here's proof of the era we lived........and it was a GREAT ERA to live ...
And Gas..25 cents/Gallon!!!
And of course, We had no money!!!
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