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 I am not fighting fundamentals.  Like all good 
detectives and technical traders I believe in the credo "Follow the 
money".  I get a buy signal, buy.  I get a sell signal, sell.  
The sell can be a retracement of an up move, so why can't one make money in both 
directions while trading.   Buy or sell on signals and exit at price 
objectives or stops.  Follow the rules and go to the bank.  
  
Good trading, Ira 
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:25 AM 
  Subject: Re: [RT] post questions 
  
  Chesapeake Energy... Both of you are depending on charts and 
  I'm depending on earnings.  The stock has come down along with all the 
  other natural gas issues because the product has come down so far.  Many 
  do not seem to be aware that they have sold 70% of the next two year's 
  production at nearly twice what the spot price is today.  Throw in the 
  CEO making a huge purchase in the open market and the fundamentals can not be 
  ignored.  None of these things take into account the approaching 
  hurricane season and what will happen to the cash price for natural gas once 
  the first named storm moves into the gulf.  If those fundamentals are not 
  enough, CHK currently sports an 8.4 PE   It's been over $40 in the 
  past 12 months and has a 10+% growth pattern.  
  So now, we have 
  two views by technicians and one by a fundamental trader.  All views are 
  interesting and no one is always right or always wrong and neither are styles 
  of investing.
  Good luck next week everyone,
  Bob
  At 10:27 
  PM 5/20/2006 -0700, you wrote: 
  You 
    see,  Here is what I mean.     I assume that this is Chessy Energy that you are talking about.  
       I have price in a range between 
    34 and 25.50.   It is in an up move until 25.50 is taken out and 
    then this retracement has a target price of 26.   Right now it is 
    at support from a longer term move down at 28.75.  You should get a 
    retracement here and the retracement shouldn't take out the 33 
    level.   If 25.5 is taken out the next target to the downside is 
    22.    This current retracement up 
    should meet resistance at 30 dollars and hit a target of about 30.50.  
    About a 1 point move from here.   If long I would exit 
    there.     So you would be 
    100% invested when I am exiting 100% and looking for a congestion area or 
    further down retracement before another up move would start. 
       We are both looking at the same 
    chart and seeing different things.  Right now the major move is down 
    and anything to the upside is nothing to get excited about.  The upside 
    is tradable and can be profitable.   Like everything else in life, 
    what is seen is in the eyes of the beholder.    Once again, just one man's opinion.  
    Ira.   PS.  Finals on Monday 
    and then a vacation.  See all when I return.  Have a good 
    week.   ----- Original Message -----  
    
      - From: Ben 
 
      - To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
 
      - Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:35 PM
 
      - Subject: Re: [RT] post questions
  
      - Hello Bob
 
      - I have attached a chart of the perfect stop 
      loss
 
      - the levels were I would buy would 
be
 
      - at a close above 29.27   will buy 
      25%  of position with stop loss at 27.98
 
        
      - will add 25% to the position on a close above 
      29.78
 
      - buy  full 100% of position at  close 
      above 30.68
 
        
      - sell 25%  at profit at 31.10
 
      - sell another 25% at  31.89
 
      - sell  rest at  32.36  or move 
      stop loss to  31.1   with increasing that  stop loss 
      every time the stock makes a higher hi
 
      - Ben
 
      - ----- Original Message ----- 
 
      - From: BobsKC 
 
      - To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
 
      - Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:32 PM
 
      - Subject: Re: [RT] post questions
  
      - A kind and generous offer Ben.  
  
      - It seems to me that traders try harder every year to get ahead of 
      historical swings and this time, it's the summer doldrums they are trying 
      to beat.  So, instead of waiting for the dreaded summer months, they 
      are bailing now to beat the rush.  The good news is even these swings 
      can be predicted if one just looks at the past performance of the markets 
      versus chronological changes and geo political events, etc.  Whatever 
      the trend is, the traders will be trying to get ahead of that trend.  
      
  
      - The fundamentals are still good.  P E's are in line and earnings 
      are growing.  Inflation is low and controlled.  Employment is 
      strong 
 
      - while on the negative side, housing is falling off and some consumers 
      are being pinched with ARM's.  I was 100% cash until late this week 
      when I began buying again and will continue to buy as it falls.  
      
  
      - To get your kicked off with your offer, here is one for you.  I 
      already own CHK at $28.80 and will buy more if it dips below that.  
      The CEO recently bought a large block and they have sold 70% of this 
      year's and next year's production at $10 so as natural gas falls below $6 
      cash, it means little to CHK in terms of earnings.  What do you think 
      about it?
  
      - Best to all,
  
      - Bob
  
      - At 03:19 PM 5/20/2006 -0400, you wrote:
 
      
        - hello
 
        - you are about to make a trade?
 
        - before making it
 
        - post it
 
        - get a second opinion
 
        - the answer will be posted with charts to 
        explain reasons why yes or no
 
        - Ben
 
  
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