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 Volatility is only useful in judging what you are 
trading.  In any trade there are two types of risk.  the initial risk 
your system provides and volatility risk.  the object of trading is to keep 
the number of risks to a minimum.  If the volatility risk is greater then 
your initial trade risk you shouldn't take the trade. If you are in a trade and 
the volatility risk increases one should reduce size so that it is commensurate 
with the initial trade risk.  They built Vegas with a 2% edge so you don't 
have to trade with increased either.  
  
   The indexes can move up or down 
on high or low volatility.  This overlay shows that it moves inversely on 
the INDU.  Will the turn come with a vix of 14, 18, 35 or any other number 
as a high or low.  This you can't predict.  The VIX does seem to move 
with a certain cyclical pattern.   
  
If the VIX is a confirming indicator for you 
and it works, then continue to use it.  Anything that is 
successful and is adding to a degree of predictability is an asset to 
any system.  
  Have a good week end.  Ira. 
 
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  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:06 
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  Subject: Re: [RT] Vix 
  
  
  I don't think i would know how to trade the vix, 
  fading volatilty maybe, but i believe that strategy has been discredited 
  .  
    
  but would you not see it moving inversly to the 
  equity indices? 
    
  and my use here is based on the movement of 
  Clyde's hurst bands, suggesting that a market, the vix in this case, has 
  moved outside what might be its "normal" range", a confirming indicator when 
  it moves back into the range. 
  
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    Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:53 
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    Subject: Re: [RT] Vix 
    
  
    I am a little confused here.  Has anyone 
    ever made any money trading the VIX?  In the 70s and 80s the VIX ranged 
    between 11 and 18.  The extremes at the time.  Then the extremes 
    changed and one was looking in the 30s and 40s.  Still no one that I 
    know of ever made a dime trading the VIX.   
      
    A lot of people have made a lot of money 
    trading the indexes with the vix at 11, 18, 25 and so on.  Does anyone 
    know how the VIX is calculated?  If they did, I doubt that they would 
    rely upon it as much as they seem to.   
      
    Ira.  
    
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      Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 8:17 
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      Subject: [RT] Vix 
      
  
      vix has been bouncing the outside of the 
      channel to the other - some thing different about his options 
      expiration? 
      
        
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