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 attach is an excel spread sheet that contains some 
REAL value 
  
low p/e 
high profit margin 
low debt 
an increase each q in earning 
increase each year in earning 
same for sales 
  
now 
who is to say that the street recognize the  
gems in the  pile and pick them? 
only time will tell 
Ben 
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  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:38 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [Value_Oasis] Re: MSN 
  Screener 
  
  
  Tom 
  
  Chuck 
  
    ----- Original Message -----  
    
    
    Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 
    8:25 PM 
    Subject: [Value_Oasis] Re: MSN 
    Screener 
    
  Welcome Chuck,
  Evidently not since I'm not even 
    clear on what you have in mind when you write about "when Moneycentral 
    was an active board."  I have seen their several pre-defined screens 
    as well as oodles of screens at Vectorvest and at some of the freebie 
    screening sites (some of which are on the LINKS tab of both the 
    Prospector and the DSL).
  It seems to me that the trick isn't in 
    finding screens or even screens that someone or other is quite proud of 
    having written.  For me, the trick is finding screens that provide a 
    high hit rate on stocks that are both stable and otherwise 
    sound.
  The entire topic of finding such screens, however, is less 
    interesting to me now than it was, say, six months ago.  Then, I 
    hadn't yet found a list of stocks that met the criteria.  Now, with 
    the DSL's list, I personally feel that I have a stock universe (albeit 
    small) that is sufficient.  On most weeks, I'm able to find four to 
    sixteen stocks that are in a conservatively-figured buy 
    range.
  Rather than concentrate on finding more stocks (though good 
    ones are ALWAYS welcome), I am personally more interested in paring down 
    the DSL by raising the bar.  But, as is ALWAYS the case with me on 
    most things, that is a backburner priority.  I know I'll get to 
    it.  I am not so sure when.  Maybe, I'll just chip away at it 
    every time I update the DSL and handle it that 
    way.
  Best,
  Tom
  --- In Value_Oasis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
    "CHUCK & BONNIE" <WILLIS_C@xxxx> wrote: > Tom > I'm 
    new to the club and haven't read any posts to speak of. I've been in the 
    process of moving. Are you aware of all the scans that were used in the 
    past when moneycentral was an active board?? > Chuck > 
    ========================= > Evidently not since I'm not sure of what 
    you mean about "was an active board."  I'm aware of the pre-canned 
    scans that are there now. And, I've seen oodles of scans in VectorVest 
    and precanned scans at other screening sites.  The trick isn't in 
    finding scans or even in finding scans that someone is very proud 
    of.  The trick is in finding scans that provide a high hit rate on 
    the high stability stocks which we're looking for.  Or, to avoid 
    pretending that I'm licensed to write for others, "which I'm looking 
    for."  >  > The issue is, to me, less interesting than it once 
    was before the DSL stocks were identified (a pretty good starting place 
    that usually has four - sixteen stocks that -- by my calculations -- are 
    within a buy range.  But, others seem to want to find more, which is 
    fine by me.   >  > In terms of the DSL, I'm actually going 
    to shrink the list by raising the bar as time goes on.  But, as is 
    always the case for me with everything other than my current top 
    priority, that's for another day. >  > ; ^ )  > 
     >  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
     >   From: Tom Richards  >   To: ValueOasis 
     >   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:40 
    PM >   Subject: [Value_Oasis] RE: MSN Screener > 
     >  >   Following is a note sent to me from Randy 
    Harmelink >   before I reopened the site to posts.  I'm 
    a little >   slow getting it posted, but it's here 
    now. >   
    =================================================== > 
     >   I agree that Mozilla doesn't work with it, but I 
    use >   the URL below to get directly to the Deluxe 
    Stock >   Screener in IE.  In fact, it opens the 
    screener with >   the last screen I used. > 
     >       >   http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/finder/customstocks.asp > 
     >   Unless maybe you have cookies turned off?  [You 
    bet.] >  >   This brings me to the point:  If 
    you've developed a >   value-oriented  screen for the 
    MSN screener that >   others might find useful, how about 
    sharing it here?  >   [I'm not sharing enough?!  In any 
    event, I believe >   I've already indicated that I'll be 
    looking at >   screeners and perhaps some screens too in 
    future >   issues of OHC.  But, I don't have a screen 
    that >   correlates especially well with the WIT.  I'm 
    sure >   we've got others here who can devise screens with 
    as >   much skill as I can.  Perhaps they'll share 
    while >   you're waiting for my two cents.  It would 
    be >   especially useful if they'll also share why the 
    screen >   they're sharing might be of general interest. 
    I've got >   a whole bunch of screens -- just don't feel 
    that any >   of them are especially meritorious. - TR]  
     >  >   Actually, there are export and import options 
    under >   the File menu.  They use an *.IFF extension 
    to for the >   external criteria files.  For example, 
    here is one: >  >   
    <HEADING>7.0 >   
    <QUERY>"ScreamVoom",0,25,0,-1 >   
    <DESC>"" >  
     <QSTRING>SV1QF234Z04L100000000ZF3Z04L5ZF115Z04L10000ZF3Z04L0.9F231MZF215Z04L0ZF215Z05F319ZF114F116DZ04L1ZF114F116DF156MZ01 > 
     >   If I export the results (and note that you can 
    choose >   which columns of data get exported for the list 
    of >   stocks) of the screen to EXCEL, it shows that 
    the >   screening criteria translates to: > 
     >       Rating >= 
    8 >       P/E Ratio: Current >= 
    0.1 >       P/E Ratio: Current <= 
    99.9 >       % Price Change Last 6 Mos. 
    >= 60 >       EPS Growth Next 5 Yr 
    High As Possible >       P/E Ratio: 
    Current/EPS Growth Next 5 Yr Display >   Only > 
     >   And I asked for the default "StockScouter 
    Rating" >   variables, which are: > 
     >       
    Symbol >       Company 
    Name >       
    Rank >       
    Rating >       P/E Ratio: 
    Current >       % Price Change Last 6 
    Mos. >       EPS Growth Next 5 
    Yr >       P/E Ratio: Current/EPS Growth 
    Next 5 Yr >       
    Size >       
    Sector >       
    Style >       Fundamental 
    Grade >       Valuation 
    Grade >       Technical 
    Grade >       Ownership 
    Grade >       Risk 
    Expectation >       Return 
    Expectation >       Market Cap Market 
    Preferences >       Sector Market 
    Preferences >       Growth vs. Value 
    Market Preferences >  > 
     >         
     >               
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