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 Establish an entry price to enter the trade rather 
then support resistance.  Make sure that the setting for the stochastic is 
set to the half cycle of the cycle that you are trading.  i.e.  22 bar 
cycle stochastics first number should be 11.  Always count cycles from low 
to low, never high to high due to translation of the highs.  
  
Remember that there are always two trades on any 
chart.  One up and one down.  If you are entering long determine ahead 
of time what would signal the entry to a trade in the opposite direction.  
 
  
The first thing you want to know is what will make 
your discussion wrong.   You don't want to get panicked in a market 
and start to mentally defend your position and the trade that you entered.  
I am not talking about a stop determination I am talking about a trade that is 
going your way.  What would be the entry price for a trade in the opposite 
direction?  Trend or contra trend.  It might not be worth trading but 
it might pay to exit your current trade and re-enter on the next leg up or down. 
 
  
Hope that this helps a little.  Have a good 
week end.  Ira.  
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:50 
  AM 
  Subject: Re: [RT] S&P 
  
  Thats what I have been doing for the past year 
  odd buying weakness in uptrend and selling on my price target and 
  missing the peak 2 to 3% each time, but this time I screwed up big time 
  expecting more weakness when it was already weak. Thank my lucky stars 
  that I dont trade futures-just stocks, else I would have been in big 
  trouble by now. Analysis paralysis is what I went through.
  Ben, Ira 
  a question - How do you know "IN TIME" when a price move is the real deal 
  and not a fade? I look for price validating the signal(I just use the 
  stochastic in addition to PitchForks and the periods for stochastics 
  vary according to the last confirmed cycle length in the issue) by follow 
  up action i.e closing above the signal high. Is there anything more that 
  one can look for? 
  Regards
 
 
  R 
  --- "mr.ira" 
  <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  > Ben: >  > Everyone 
  enters and exits their trades based upon > the system they use.  I 
  would exit based upon > reaching price objectives and then confirmation 
  from > my two indicators.   I prefer selling into 
  strength > rather then being stopped out due to weakness.  
  I > liked to give it to them when they screamed for them > and buy 
  when they were dumping them.  Whom ever they > might be.  
   >  > At this point there is no position to defend and all > 
  that is required to re-enter the market is a buy or > sell signal. 
   >   ----- Original Message -----  >   From: 
  Ben  >   To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  >   
  Cc: ntt-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; > e-mini_traders_anon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
   >   Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:12 AM >   
  Subject: Re: [RT] S&P >  >  >   Hello 
  Ira >  >   the 2 most important warning sighs 
  are: >   a: new high new low  did not improve last 2 
  days > with higher prices, >   b: McClellan osc for 
  issues and vol are showing > bearish divergence, >   As 
  you know   , My belief  about taking profits is > Very 
  important, >   this is why I called my 2 main indicators , 
  one > profit index and one long term trading, >   
  Both  measure profits at different time frames, >   my 
  sell is cash close under 1212 >   p/c is still pointing 
  higher, and so is volume, >   set back  is just 2-3 days 
  to 1180 >   then new highs, >   
  Ben >     ----- Original Message ----- 
   >     From: mr.ira  >     
  To: real traders  >     Sent: Thursday, July 14, 
  2005 10:56 AM >     Subject: [RT] S&P > 
   >  >     This rally is over.  I don't 
  know what is going > to kill it, but today should be the last day with 
  a > retracement on Friday.  Let us see how that works > 
  out.   >  >     I don't have a sell 
  signal, just a warning that > it is time to take profits.  Ringing 
  the cash > register is the name of the game.  Like a very 
  wise > old timer said, "  I will give someone else the > 
  first 10% and the last 10% as long as I can get that > 80% in the 
  middle".  The indication now is to take > the 80% and sit back and 
  wait for the next signal.  >  >  >     
  Ira.  >  > 
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