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 The maximum order size for the mini 
S&P was increased this January from 400 to 1500 for regular orders and from 
1000 to 5000 for calendar spreads. It has been since then that I've noticed 
these huge bids in the market depth. Incidentally, you'll see them as well on 
the ask. 
  
Have you noticed how many times these 
huge orders get filled? Almost never because they disappear as fast as they 
arrive. I'd love to know their purpose, but I think I already do. 
  
Andrew 
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:07 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [RT] Bid/Ask sizes 
  
  Thx Andrew.
  The 5 or more price levels are changing 
  unbelievablely fast for manual  changing.  Wouldn't another name for 
  "spoofing" be called "Phantom orders"?  Which is illegal per 
  Globex.    Yes I did observe  often that the bid size 
  outnumbered the offer size and in an instant the bid size drops 
  dramatically along with the price.  And I'm talking at  least a bid 
  size of up to 5x the offer size.
  Since it's all about money.  You 
  would think a large competitor would  nail that "spooffer" because the bid 
  size does stay from 5 to 15 seconds. What's the max order size allowed for 
  electronic trading?
  TIA,
  dom
 
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