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Re: [RT] sp500 update and the vix



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Hi Ben,

could you kindly clarify a few points for me? 

For one thing, what is the idea behind hedging with puts for a limited time, and then lifting the hedge the moment you can pay for it? A market drop may occur any time, not only when you initiate your position.

Furthermore, 6 emini puts would be a totally inadequate hedge against 20 long emini futures. Perhaps you meant 26 emini puts?

In case you meant 6 big S&P puts, have you checked with your broker re margin risk? I've never mixed big with mini, so I don't know for sure, but the big S&P puts may not be directly redeemable against the eminis. In a crash situation, margin for 20 eminis might grow out of proportion without being counterbalanced by the puts via SPAN. Would be very much interested to know what the SPAN regulations are saying here.

Lastly, what is your time horizon in case the market drops? There is the theta effect (time decay) to consider. The initial 2 points risk will grow much larger the longer this hedge is kept in place.

Thanks and best regards,

Michael Suesserott


Ben wrote:
> We are  closer to a low in BOTH  NASDAQ and sp500
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> if  1189  holds  and we close  substantially  above  I would be happy
> NASDAQ  and sp 500  will probably make a lower low ,
> do not try to buy bottoms
> lets wait for confirm up move
> my trade of long at  1192 will be with  hedge  buying 20 e mini
> long 6 1190 puts so my risk is only 2 points,
> will sell the puts to a loss on a CLOSE above  1200, and also sell at that 
> time 5 e mini(out of the 20)
> Ben
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> Subject: Re: [RT] sp500 update and the vix
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>>Clyde's hurst projections for the vix next week
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>>Subject: [RT] sp500 update
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>>>Hello
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>>>NASDAQ is now in more trouble, it may not bottom on Monday
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>>>the sp500 is in a better shape and likely support is between 1193-1197
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>>>I would be a buyer  at  that level  Monday/Tuesday
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>>>stop loss at   1189
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>>>profit objective is 1225-1235
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>>>cycle  is suggesting 3/16 as low
>>>Ben
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