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Re: [RT] Single Stock Futures vs Stock Trading: not interesting ?



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Peregrine Financial (PFG) offers an attractive commission strucure as 
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Peter is a great source of help, and you never get pressured by him 
to do anything.

I have no connections with any of the above, other than being a very 
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-- In realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, I4Lothian@xxxx wrote:
> Carl:
> 
> I would agree with you about you trading style.  Using the cash 
stocks is 
> probably the best way to go, unless you had a bearish bias.  Then 
the lack of an 
> uptick rule might be useful.
> 
> I must confess that I have a problem with the SSFs being so small 
and with 
> the commission pricing structural differences between SSFs and cash 
stocks.  In 
> fact, I have asked one of the exchanges to consider going to a 
round lot of 10 
> contracts.  What this means is that if you trade 1 contract or 10, 
you are 
> charged as one transaction, similar to the cash equities.  I think 
this would 
> increase the desirability of SSFs for traders like yourselves, as 
the economics 
> would be greater for both you and your broker.
> 
> From a broker's standpoint, not many want to promote SSFs because 
they are so 
> small and the commissions need to be so low to be competitive.  
With the 
> round lot protocol, this pressure on commissions would be reduced.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John J. Lothian
> 
> Disclosure: Futures trading involves significant financial risk. 
SSF trading 
> is not for everyone.
> 
> In a message dated 5/26/2004 6:42:38 AM Central Standard Time, 
> carlvan@xxxx writes:
> Thank you for your clarification, but the fact remains: 
> When I day-trade stocks, I often exit the trade with  only 10 to 15 
> pts; thus for 1000 stocks purchased, its a $ 100 to 150 gain, and I 
> am happy with that. Now, if I trade the SAME stock in its SSF 
> version, and that the spread is 5 pts instead of 1 pt, my benefit 
> would be only $50 to 100 refering to the example I gave.
> This a huge difference !
> 
> Therefore I still do not see any advantage switching to SSF 
trading, 
> at least my "business case"
> 
> Regards
> Carl



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