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You agree with this?
(I predict all the time.
I predict I will live over the night and get up in
the morning.
I predict that I will leave the house at 7-7:15 and
arrive at the office in 7-15 minutes.
I predict that I will leave the office at 3:30 +/-
15 minutes and 7-15 minutes to home)
The predicting the future stuff has become way too silly.
If you say you predict fine. I don't! What part of I don't do
you not understand?
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>From:
Adrian Pitt
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:09
AM
Subject: RE: [RT] nasdaq and sp500
top
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size=2>Totally agree Clyde...the power of the mind is enormous...that is
obvious when a person with a bad case of anorexia can stand in front of a
mirror and believe in their mind they are fat. Just as now, people can
say they don't predict. Just because they say it isn't so, doesn't make it
so. People can disagree over the definition of the word prediction and
try to apply it in the narrowest sense possible, and from that perspective
they might be right. But in the situation we are discussing here its
fairly obvious to most that every time we make a trade we make a
prediction. Every trade IS a BET. you can call it a trade...or an
investment....its just semantics...its still a wager with an uncertain
outcome. You ca try to convince yourself that your not predicting
because your buy signal isn't saying how much the market will rise or to what
level, but they are irrelevant and don't define what a prediction is.
What professional trader in their right mind would take a trade if they
weren't PREDICTING a long run positive expectation for it?? Perhaps some
readers needs to think a little more laterally, but every trade I make is a
prediction and I have no specific targets in time nor price. What I find
in life though is that people pre programme their minds over their lifetime,
usually very early on actually, and no amount of evidence will change that
perspective as to change would be admitting your belief system of life was
false...and its a rare person capable of doing that.
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: ClydeLee (swb)
[mailto:clydelee@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 1:33
PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT]
nasdaq and sp500 top
What the hell is so bad about
predicting.
I predict all the time.
I predict I will live over the night and get up
in the morning.
I predict that I will leave the house at 7-7:15
and arrive at the office in 7-15 minutes.
I predict that I will leave the office at 3:30
+/- 15 minutes and 7-15 minutes to home.
We are always PRDICTING/ANTICIPATING -- I have
never heard
so much crap for people not willing to admit
that they do predict
what will happen when they take some
action.
Semantics, semantics, BS, BS, BS ! ! ! !
Clyde
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Chairman/CEO (Home of
SwingMachine)SYTECH
Corporation email: <A
href="">clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx 7910
Westglen, Suite 105
Office: (713) 783-9540Houston, TX
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>From:
RB
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:09
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500
top
Well, I guess that would alos depend
on who you ask. :)
To me, making a bet has nothing to do
with making a prediction.
I don't bet or gamble, but lets say I
was making a bet on a basketball game. Lets say Duke was playing
Carolina.
I would bet on Duke because I honestly think
they are the better of the two, but I am deffinately not predicting that
they WILL win. They are not undefeated, and even if they were,
undefeated, I still would not come out and predict that they would win,
but if I had to bet, I would take Duke!
Kind of like playing black jack or
anything. You play, you bet, but of course you don't predict you are
going to win. That would be silly.
But, don't get me wrong. You can
predict and some do predict. I don't predict!
Maybe an intelligent guess,
sometimes. :)
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>From:
Mark
Simms
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:12
PM
Subject: RE: [RT] nasdaq and sp500
top
Here's
one related to this issue:
Is making
a BET the same as making a PREDICTION ?
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<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: RB
[mailto:rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004
9:53 PMTo: <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject:
Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 top
Another point about your
email.
You seem to be talking about the
10%-20% who make make some money. How about the 80%-90%
that lose?
Are they predicting and are just
wrong?
Maybe that is one of my main
points.
YES, you can predict! But,
most of the time it is wrong.
But, now back to me. I don't
predict. And why you, say that I can and do predict is beyond
logic.
I don't even know what happened in most
markets yesterday. Why in the world you think I can predict the
future, is silly.
So, YES, I fail to see the
obvious!
Also remember, if you see the nose on
your face, you are spending too much time in front of a
mirrow.
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----- Original Message -----
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>From:
<A title=apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">Adrian Pitt
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004
12:20 AM
Subject: RE: [RT] nasdaq and
sp500 top
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>RB,
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>You fail to see the obvious. When you take a buy signal
based on your indicators you ARE making a
prediction.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>End of story...to disagree with this is to stick ones head in
the sand and argue semantics. If you make
money
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>from your trades on balance, by definition your tools are
making an accurate forecast just as you intended them to.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Perhaps not in the narrow sense you <SPAN
class=250321708-08032004>may
think, but a forecast they are making. I'll leave it to you to work
out what that exactly is...but its as plain as the nose on your face
:)
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size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Cheers,
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Adrian
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr
align=left>-----Original
Message-----From: RB [mailto:rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 1:43 PMTo:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and
sp500 topTo some people maybe. But,
I use indicators etc. and predict nothing. Ifmy
indicators show buy. I buy. Nothing to do with me
predicting anythingat all. And that is good. My
opinions and predictions are usually not toogood. In
other words I would be wrong to often. I like to use charts
andlet my indicators etc. do the work. I leave the
predictions to the psycics.As far as taking trades. I am
predicting nothing. What would make youthink I could or
would predict anything?I take the signals, use stops and don't
worry about it.Kind of like any bussiness, games or anything
in life. We can't predict ifwe will win, but we can
prepare and do our best and hope things work out.Yes, I know
Broadway Joe predicted the jets win over the colts.
Somethings can't be explained! :) But, most teams
prepare and hope for thebest, but can't predict the out
come. If i would have tried, I would have probably
predicted the last 5 tops inthe stock market that didn't
happen. LOL!Many others have done this many, many
times.I guess some try to predict? I don't predict
anything!----- Original Message -----From: "ClydeLee
(swb)" <clydelee@xxxxxxxxxx>To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Sunday, March 07,
2004 3:24 PMSubject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500
top> You say:>> " I've been following
markets for close to 30 years and have never> predicted
anything.">> Now personally I think that is a
crock.>> Any time you take a trade you are
predicting that prices will move in> a direction that will
make you a profit or you would not take a trade.>>
This concept of not predicting and only reacting to the market
is> definitely out of kilter with
reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>> Clyde>> -
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-> Clyde Lee
Chairman/CEO
(Home of SwingMachine)> SYTECH
Corporation
email: clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 7910 Westglen, Suite
105 Office:
(713) 783-9540> Houston, TX
77063
Fax: (713) 783-1092> Details
at:
www.theswingmachine.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - ->>> ----- Original
Message -----> From: "RB"
<rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Sunday, March
07, 2004 6:49 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500
top>>> > Yep. The word predict has
nothing to do with trading.> > If it did we would never
need stops or protection. :)> > I've been
following markets for close to 30 years and have never>
predicted> > anything.> > Just be
careful with the ones who claim they can predict, or make
a> $1,000> > a day or make 200% a week in trading
etc. There are many of those crooks> on> > the
net. If they could do that, they would have more money
than Gatesin> 4> > years. Just find out
their names and check to see if they are listed as>
one> > of the richest peopele in the world. Odds
are they are not even closeto> > being the richest
on their block. :) Most likely not even the
richestin> > their own family. LOL!>
>> >> > ----- Original Message
-----> > From: "mr.ira"
<mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Sent: Sunday,
March 07, 2004 11:39 AM> > Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and
sp500 top> >> >> > > One can not
predict the future with 100% reliability, but one
cantrade> > with> > > a very high
degree of probability, 80%+. As for owning the world,
not> > with> > > the current
liquidity.> > >> > >> > >
----- Original Message -----> > > From: "RB"
<rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > Sent:
Sunday, March 07, 2004 1:41 PM> > > Subject: Re: [RT]
nasdaq and sp500 top> > >> > >>
> > > The future can not be predicted period. If
one could, they wouldown> > the> > >
> world. But, since one can't, we are in the same boat.
:) Run don't> > walk> > > > from
someone saying this or that predicts this or that.> >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message
-----> > > > From: "Alex Bell"
<alex_bell@xxxxxxx>> > > > To: "profitok"
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > > Sent:
Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:01 AM> > > > Subject: Re:
[RT] nasdaq and sp500 top> > > >> > >
>> > > > > Hello Ben,> > > >
>> > > > > I have overlaid it over
Wilshire 5000 index portfolio (symbol> WINDX).> >
> > > See attached. As far
as I can see (and of course I may be> missing>
> > > > smth.) for the last year the study
predicted about 5 tops that> didn't> > > >
> occur and suggested no one long (didn't predict any
bottom).> > > > >> > > > >
Best regards,> > > > >
Alex
mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxx> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > Sunday, March 7, 2004,
8:14:26 AM, you wrote:> > > > >> >
> > > p> Hello> > > > >>
> > > > p> this is my long term trading>
> > > > p> it is done on the weekly bars of
the whilshire 5000> > > > > p> (almost
all stocks traded)> > > > >> > >
> > p> when the line reaches the top it is a good time to
exit your> > > > conservative money and 401K
and IRA> > > > >> > > > >
p> right now we are VERY close to a top (max
upside potentialis> > 250> > >
> whilshire 5000 points)> > > >
>> > > > > p> the chrt is reduced
to a 1/10 of value (current close 11314)> > >
> > p> Ben> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >
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