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Re: Re[4]: [RT] sp 500



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Personally, I think the mkt is about ready to crack 
for a decent short trade.  With a few trendline breaks 
here.....
 
bobr
 
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  Mark Simms 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:56 AM
  Subject: RE: Re[4]: [RT] sp 500
  
  nicely 
  done....and what's really interesting is the upwardly sloping 
  channel....indicating a bottoming process is in place and working as though 
  put buyers outnumber the call buyers. (contrary opinion theory at work 
  here).
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: BobR 
    [mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:08 
    AMTo: <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
    Re: Re[4]: [RT] sp 500
    That 21 day p/c ratio does appear to have 
    value.  This p/c data is what comes off of the dtn sat feed symbol name 
    = PCRATIO.
     
    bobr
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      >From: 
      Alex Bell 
      
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">Ray Raffurty 
      Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:02 
      AM
      Subject: Re[4]: [RT] sp 500
      Hello Ray,Thanks.  I  never  
      was  and never be initiator or supporter of 
      uselessdisputes.As for opinions. Although based on other type 
      of research this time myopinion  is  similar to Ben's: 
      market is probably nearing to long termtop.  This  is  
      based  on  extremely  high  adv.  line  
      & vix readingsapproaching   to  its  low  
      channel  &  low  average  p/c  ratio  
      alsoapproaching  to  its  low  zone  
      about  0.7 (I am using 21 ma on it) &fundamental  
      considerations  -  S&P p/e ratio is still ~2 times 
      higherthan it was on major historical bottoms after major 
      bubbles.Best 
      regards,Alex                            
      mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxxMonday, May 5, 2003, 6:33:11 PM, you 
      wrote:RR> Gentlemen,RR> As you both know on of the 
      surest was to be removed from this list is to get into a useless dispute 
      with one another.  Since I (and perhaps others) value both of your 
      opinions, I would appreciateRR> it if you drop this 
      discussion.RR> Thanks in advance,RR> Good luck and 
      good trading,RR> Ray RaffurtyRR>   
      ----- Original Message ----- RR>   From: Alex Bell 
      RR>   To: Adrian Pitt RR>   Sent: 
      Monday, May 05, 2003 10:12 AMRR>   Subject: Re[2]: [RT] 
      sp 500RR>   Hello 
      Adrian,RR>   I do know "that part of the business is 
      taking losses" so what? I knowRR>   a lot other nonsenses 
      of such a type.RR>   I  asked a question about 
      Ben's strategy. Yes, I was short. Not on theRR>   advice 
      of others but according to my own rules and views on market. 
      OnRR>   daily  I  am using strategy based on 
      market breadth and other internalRR>   statistics.  
      I  never  use  what  I  don't  
      understand  (and  I  don'tRR>   understand 
      how Ben's tools work).RR>   And  believe or not 
      I am not interested to hear your assumptions aboutRR>   
      my intentions.RR>   Best 
      regards,RR>   
      Alex                            
      mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxxRR>   Monday, May 5, 
      2003, 4:38:29 PM, you wrote:RR>   AP> 
      Alex,RR>   AP> Does this mean you took a position 
      on the advice of others and failed toRR>   AP> know 
      where your exit point was?  I would hope that your not trying to 
      beRR>   AP> subtle by blaming Ben for your loss. If 
      you were a professional traderRR>   AP> you'd know 
      that part of the business is taking losses, but as I 
      suspectRR>   AP> your trying to poo poo someone else 
      voluntary help to this list I wouldRR>   AP> actualy 
      suggest you're a poor loser.  I'm sure most on this list nor 
      theRR>   AP> moderator would appreciate that kind of 
      input.RR>   AP> Regards,RR>   
      AP> Adrian.RR>   AP> Ps....If you had even 
      bothered to read his email your last questionRR>   AP> 
      would have be answered about as clear as anyone 1st grader could 
      askRR>   AP> for.RR>   >> 
      -----Original Message-----RR>   >> From: Alex Bell 
      [mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxx] RR>   >> Sent: Monday, 5 
      May 2003 8:21 PMRR>   >> To: none 
      RR>   >> Subject: Re: [RT] sp 
      500RR>   >> RR>   >> 
      RR>   >> Hello Ben,RR>   >> 
      RR>   >> Does that mean that previous short 
      position (initiated 1-2 RR>   >> days ago if 
      I  remember correctly) suggested by your tools RR>   
      >> was covered for a loss? If yes at what 
      level?RR>   >> RR>   >> And 
      what criteria to open next short?RR>   >> 
      RR>   >> Thanks, AlexRR>   
      >> mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxxRR>   >> 
      RR>   >> RR>   >> Monday, 
      May 5, 2003, 8:09:38 AM, you wrote:RR>   >> 
      RR>   >> n> HelloRR>   >> 
      n> this market is stronger than I expected,RR>   
      >> n> And, I can see it in  1-3 days we could close above 
      940 or RR>   >> at least  
      RR>   >> n> hit 945  intra day high, that 
      should prove as  a INTERMEDIATE  top RR>   
      >> n> and  the next  price objective is  840 
      all  3 tools I use RR>   >> suggest  
      a  RR>   >> n> major top be 
      carefulRR>   >> n> BenRR>   
      >> n> home of the perfect stop lossRR>   
      >> n> profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxRR>   >> n> 
      (which suggest the following levels)RR>   >> n> 
      if you are long  your stop is at 921.1 for overnight 
      RR>   >> session, and going up  4 points per 
      hour in the day sessionRR>   >> n> sell short is 
      at  917RR>   >> n> add to shorts at  
      912.2RR>   >> RR>   >> 
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