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Re: [RT] Re: CME GLOBEX down



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Noted. Thanks.

Regards
DanG

tradewynne wrote:

  
    Limit order at the CME? Is it somehow calculated from the trigger, 
    
  
  or is  it input?

+/- your input: 

Buy ESM 93000 STPLMT 93500

Buys @ 93000 (trigger) but 93500 is the limit

or say Buy ESM 93000 STPLMT 93000

930 is the trigger AND the limit





--- In realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dan Goncharoff <TheGonch@xxxx> 
wrote:
  
  
    Earl

Thank you for the clarification. I had trouble finding a summary of 
order types on the CME website. You are right that other exchanges 
    
  
  work 
  
  
    differently, and it was indeed I who got himself twisted around...

How is the limit (as opposed to the trigger) price determined for a 
    
  
  Stop 
  
  
    Limit order at the CME? Is it somehow calculated from the trigger, 
    
  
  or is 
  
  
    it input?

Regards
DanG

EarlA wrote:

    
    
      Dan,

a) Market orders are pseudo orders and are translated to limit 
      
    
  
  orders using
  
  
    
      an offset from the current bid/ask. I can't swear to this, but I 
      
    
  
  believe
  
  
    
      that it is the broker's computer which does this translation.

b) The Limit order is native to Globex and is hosted on Globex 
      
    
  
  servers.
  
  
    
      c) Stop orders are pseudo orders ... they are held on the broker 
      
    
  
  computer
  
  
    
      until the stop price is hit in the broker's data stream, then 
      
    
  
  released as a
  
  
    
      Limit order to Globex with an offset from the current bid/ask.

d) Stop Limit orders are native to Globex and are hosted on Globex 
      
    
  
  servers.
  
  
    
      Please note that the order types and handling vary from one 
      
    
  
  exchange to
  
  
    
      another so what is true for Globex should not be assumed to apply 
      
    
  
  to other
  
  
    
      exchanges.

Earl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Goncharoff" <TheGonch@xxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: CME GLOBEX down


 

      
      
        I have one comment to hat Earl wrote here.

We have had discussions in the past about brokers 'holding' stops 
        
      
    
  
  on
  
  
    
      
        their own computers, which means they are not held at the 
        
      
    
  
  exchange.
  
  
    
      
        Instead, the broker's system is monitoring the market, and 
        
      
    
  
  transmitting
  
  
    
      
        an order to the exchange when the stop is triggered. Broker 
        
      
    
  
  stops, as
  
  
    
      
        opposed to exchange stops, might not be automatically canceled; 
        
      
    
  
  it would
  
  
    
      
        depend on the policy of the broker. It would be necessary to 
        
      
    
  
  clarify the
  
  
    
      
        situation on broker stops with your broker. (I don't know what 
        
      
    
  
  you mean
  
  
    
      
        by Market orders sitting in broker computers, unless you are 
        
      
    
  
  talking
  
  
    
      
        about the orders that get caught in the moments between order 
        
      
    
  
  entry and
  
  
    
      
        transmission to the exchange.) I also think you have it backwards 
        
      
    
  
  with
  
  
    
      
        regard to Stop Market v Stop Limit orders -- I always thought 
        
      
    
  
  Globex
  
  
    
      
        held Stop Market orders, but not Stop Limit; you have it the 
        
      
    
  
  other way
  
  
    
      
        around.

Regards
DanG
   

        
      
      

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