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[RT] Countertrend trading (was: ESH3)



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class=363535114-14022003>Totally agree. Probably misunderstood your first 
message below which appeared to be a blanket condemnation of buying on 
weakness.
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<SPAN 
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  size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: ira 
  [mailto:mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Gesendet: Friday, February 14, 2003 
  15:44An: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxBetreff: Re: [RT] 
  Countertrend trading (was: ESH3)
  A contra trend trade is based upon a signal, not 
  upon an assumption.  You are basing the trade upon some system that says 
  it is going lower.  You are not buying on weakness which means it is 
  going lower or selling on strength because you believe it should go 
  lower.  Most contra trend trades are established when a trend trade has 
  reached a target that should act as resistance for the current move.  
  Whether that target is a measured move, a Fib. number, a support or resistance 
  level, that has proven its worth in the past.  Guessing, trading upon a 
  gut feeling, trading on news, chasing a trade and many other no nos are used 
  every day and cost people a lot of money.  Ira
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    Subject: [RT] Countertrend trading 
    (was: ESH3)
    
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    class=601390314-14022003>Hi Ira,
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    class=601390314-14022003>I certainly appreciate your point, but a point 
    can also be made for occasional countertrend trading, if done with 
    correct stops. For instance, most Wolfe Waves start out counter to the 
    prevailing trend. If you remember the wave that I posted here a few 
    days ago - though it did not quite make it to the target line because of the 
    Al Jazeera video tape news, still the pattern if entered around the #5 point 
    made some good money on a small risk.
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    class=601390314-14022003>One way to handle counter trend trades is by 
    looking for trend confirmation on a smaller time frame. Like when entering a 
    counter trend pattern on a 30 min. chart, one might wait for the new 
    direction to prove itself as a trend on a 5 min. chart.
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    class=601390314-14022003>Regards,
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    <SPAN 
    class=601390314-14022003>Michael Suesserott
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      <FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: ira 
      [mailto:mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Gesendet: Friday, February 14, 
      2003 06:34An: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxBetreff: 
      Re: [RT] ESH3
      It absolutely boggles my mind why a trader 
      would buy weakness.  If it is falling, let it fall.  If you 
      think it is going to rise, wait for it to prove to you that it is going to 
      do just that, rise.  Then buy.   If you are going from 
      Chicago to New York, would you go by Denver and San Francisco first.  
      Why not just hop the train as it leaves the station for New 
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