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According to Stratfor (private intelligence), Russia, at the request of the
US, was primed to take out Saddam. The US put a halt to the plan at the last
minute. The Russian military is now extremely frustrated and Putin will not
earn points if Iraq is invaded.
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: "ira" <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Iraq
> It is my understanding that right now Russia has billions of dollars in
oil
> development contracts in Iraq and they will do everything possible to stop
> us unless we guarantee that those contracts will remain in force after any
> altercation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Rollins" <kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Iraq
>
>
> > I think the long term stability of Saudi Arabia is very much in
question.
> > The extremist religion they are fostering is bound to boil over sooner
or
> > later, maybe with a little help from one or more of our TLA's. Saudi
> Arabia
> > is headed towards becoming an Iran. If we can turn Iraq into a Turkey
or
> an
> > Egypt, and let the oil companies get in there during this decade, Iraq
can
> > replace the oil that we could potentially lose from the House of Saud.
> The
> > terrorism that hit us on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia. And Bush will go
> > after the roots.
> >
> > WMD is just a pretext for Iraq. Saddam will be removed from office dead
> or
> > alive. There have been rumors about him moving to Libya, but I don't
see
> > it. I say he's going out feet first, and some lucky US Air Force pilot
> will
> > be the one who gets to push the button.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Johnson" <jejohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Iraq
> >
> >
> > I've been indulging in that activity myself. And I come to a different
> > interpretation of the apparent lack of evidence re Iraq. Consider that
> Iraq
> > was supposed to do all this disarmament immediately folowing '91. That
> was
> > in
> > exchange for taking him out then. W is just the first person to
actually
> > take
> > the agreement seriously. Even his father didn't and Bill C sure didn't.
> >
> > Secondly, this guy attempted to assasinate a former US president (G HW
> > Bush).
> > For that alone we should have destroyed him and whatever else had to go
> with
> > it. As far as I can tell we did nothing.
> >
> > Third, two or so years ago Jim Smith of the Princeton Economics
Institute
> > wrote
> > a very incisive piece asserting that we would havbe to put US soldiers
on
> > the
> > ground, under fire because of oil--Saudi overthrown, Israel attacked
etc.
> > He
> > didn't say when but reasoned it was a virtual certainty.
> >
> > If Smith is correct, then better for us to choose when and how and where
> we
> > will establish a sphere of influlence in the Middle East. Irag seems to
> be
> > the
> > perfect pretext for a geopolitically necessary event.
> >
> > So short term the pretext has sufficient validity and long term it is
> > unavoidable. If you know you're going to have to be in a fight, pick
you
> > own
> > time and place rather than have it sprung upon you.
> >
> > The suggestion (not sure if BobKC was making it) that Iraq is just a
ploy
> to
> > get political points, boost chances for re-election seem naive. With
the
> > spport he's gotten post 9-11 he needn't take such a big chance. The
Iraq
> > thing
> > is very risky for him--mainly in the aftermath phase. If his goal was
> > simply
> > re-election there are many safer (in the short term) ways--play more UN
> > games,
> > apease the world, chase terrorists, have Jimmy Carter make a deal with
> Sadam
> > like he did with N Korea. W could easily get two years of marking time.
> > Problem is, in the long term he would sell us down ther river like so
many
> > previous presidents.
> >
> > Quoting BobsKC <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > > I was doing something dangerous this evening. I was thinking. :)
We
> > are
> > > claiming that Iraq has all these weapons of mass destruction but we
have
> > > offered nearly zero proof. The investigators are finding nothing even
> > with
> > > our photographic evidence from space. Even so, without any proof
> > whatever,
> > > we continue to prepare for war there. The markets are jittery as hell
> > > about this but lets consider ...... just for fun .. that Bush does not
> > > intend to attack Iraq at all but rather to call the whole thing off
> which
> > > would be grand news to the financial markets and "save his butt" on
the
> > > home front. The markets historically don't do so well in Feb which
> would
> > > be a good time for him to pull the worry plug. It's the only thing
that
> > > makes sense to me with regard to this continued build up and
threatening
> > > posturing with no proof to back it up. Time will tell.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Jim Johnson
> >
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