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I think the long term stability of Saudi Arabia is very much in question.
The extremist religion they are fostering is bound to boil over sooner or
later, maybe with a little help from one or more of our TLA's.  Saudi Arabia
is headed towards becoming an Iran.  If we can turn Iraq into a Turkey or an
Egypt, and let the oil companies get in there during this decade, Iraq can
replace the oil that we could potentially lose from the House of Saud.  The
terrorism that hit us on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia.  And Bush will go
after the roots.

WMD is just a pretext for Iraq.  Saddam will be removed from office dead or
alive.  There have been rumors about him moving to Libya, but I don't see
it.  I say he's going out feet first, and some lucky US Air Force pilot will
be the one who gets to push the button.

Kent


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Johnson" <jejohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Iraq


I've been indulging in that activity myself.  And I come to a different
interpretation of the apparent lack of evidence re Iraq.  Consider that Iraq
was supposed to do all this disarmament immediately folowing '91.  That was
in
exchange for taking him out then.  W is just the first person to actually
take
the agreement seriously.  Even his father didn't and Bill C sure didn't.

Secondly, this guy attempted to assasinate a former US president (G HW
Bush).
For that alone we should have destroyed him and whatever else had to go with
it.  As far as I can tell we did nothing.

Third, two or so years ago Jim Smith of the Princeton Economics Institute
wrote
a very incisive piece asserting that we would havbe to put US soldiers on
the
ground, under fire because of oil--Saudi overthrown, Israel attacked etc.
He
didn't say when but reasoned it was a virtual certainty.

If Smith is correct, then better for us to choose when and how and where we
will establish a sphere of influlence in the Middle East.  Irag seems to be
the
perfect pretext for a geopolitically necessary event.

So short term the pretext has sufficient validity and long term it is
unavoidable.  If you know you're going to have to be in a fight, pick you
own
time and place rather than have it sprung upon you.

The suggestion (not sure if BobKC was making it) that Iraq is just a ploy to
get political points, boost chances for re-election seem naive.  With the
spport he's gotten post 9-11 he needn't take such a big chance.  The Iraq
thing
is very risky for him--mainly in the aftermath phase.  If his goal was
simply
re-election there are many safer (in the short term) ways--play more UN
games,
apease the world, chase terrorists, have Jimmy Carter make a deal with Sadam
like he did with N Korea. W could easily get two years of marking time.
Problem is, in the long term he would sell us down ther river like so many
previous presidents.

Quoting BobsKC <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> I was doing something dangerous this evening.  I was thinking.  :)   We
are
> claiming that Iraq has all these weapons of mass destruction but we have
> offered nearly zero proof.  The investigators are finding nothing even
with
> our photographic evidence from space.  Even so, without any proof
whatever,
> we continue to prepare for war there.  The markets are jittery as hell
> about this but lets consider ...... just for fun .. that Bush does not
> intend to attack Iraq at all but rather to call the whole thing off which
> would be grand news to the financial markets and "save his butt" on the
> home front.  The markets historically don't do so well in Feb which would
> be a good time for him to pull the worry plug.  It's the only thing that
> makes sense to me with regard to this continued build up and threatening
> posturing with no proof to back it up.  Time will tell.
>
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Best Regards,

Jim Johnson

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