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Hi Bob,
Thanks for this post. I'm curious as to how
you developed this system and why you don't trade it anymore (other than
boredom).
Good luck and good trading,
Ray Raffurty
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Simple reason to quit was the stress it causes due
to too much attention and interpretation since it wasn't a coded system and was
incomplete. The entries were prone to
bad interpretation which worsened with fatigue.
The system got its start with a layout of 9
individual charts on a Mac Plus back in the 1980's prior to the QQQ's and NDX
options and prior to the emini's. The charting software was TrendSetter's
ProAnalyst and the data feed was DBC signal on cable. The charts
were:
tick,
trin,
tyx (30 year Tbond yields)
prem,
oex,
at the money call, (TrendSetter would plot
bid and ask ticks on the same plot as the last option trade)
at the money put,
vix,
Intraday McClellan Oscillator
After watching all the squiggly lines on intraday
charts for a long time and seeing certain coincidental or synchronistic behavior
the discretionary system evolved. My desire was to make it mechanical, but
TrendSetter lacked programming functionality, thus I moved to TradeStation 3.1,
TS4, TS2k. At the time I was a computer maintenance supervisor at the
university of CA in Davis. They were going through budget cuts and
midmanagement layoffs. Fortunately they gave me early retirement, but
following that there were some lifestyle changes and 3 relocations which
interrupted trading activity. The last few years have been rather
productive in terms of learning some EasyLanguage and particularly something
about creating systems. Perhaps the system will be resurrected. It
would be more suited for emini trading in today's market.
bobr
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:10
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] setups
Hi Bob,
Thanks for this post. I'm curious as to how
you developed this system and why you don't trade it anymore (other than
boredom).
Good luck and good trading,
Ray Raffurty
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<A title=bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>BobR
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:08
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] setups
Here is a rough draft from memory of how I
traded it a few years back. Some may recall statements being posted on
rt.
It is a discretionary, read not proprietary and
not coded, system. Thus it may be difficult to duplicate, but here
goes:
Requires a realtime datafeed, online broker
with discount commissions, and realtime OPRA with no funny stuff like BMI
used to do with options..Set up a chart with the 5 minute OEX in subgraph
one. TICK in subgraph 2 with 5 lines at zero, +400, -400, +600,
-600. Put the PREM in subgraph3 with the fair value, buy level, sell
level lines, updated each day. The CNBC levels worked good, the
w.programtrading levels didn't and seemed to be more useful for breakouts
than cycletrading.
1. Determine the daily trend of the OEX
midpoint, or the pivot trend, has it been going up or
down.
2. Make entries using at the money or one
strike out options in the direction of the trend, but make the
entries on pullbacks against the trend, thus your entries are in sync
with the MM's and not the general public.
2a. Trades can be made against the trend with
lower expectations of profit.
3. Apply classical pivots and fib pivots to the
OEX. Use a combination of the standard daily pivot and S/R levels along
with the FibonacciTrader half range, 0.618 range, range levels for "fuzzy"
entry levels, meaning close enough is good enough. Some days the
standard S/R levels are hit and other days the FT levels are dominant.
Seems to very depending on whether everyone is trading or if there is a
holiday period coming up or just finishing.
4. Wait ~30 minutes after the cash open to make
the first trade.
5. Visualize a time sector at the top of the
hour and bottom of the hour(using a circular 12 hour clock).
6. Enter puts in the time sector
at the top of the hour and enter calls in the time sector at the bottom
of the hour. This puts the odds in your favor of being profitable for
a short period of time. You might use a fast oscillator as price
approaches an S/R level, I didn't.
6a. Toggle the bid/ask quotes during the time
sector and watch for a change or peak in sentiment.
7. Monitor the TICK and PREM to determine the
quality(inhalation/exhalation) of price trend during those sectors and as
confirmation of intraday trend change. There is a dominant 30 minute
half cycle in existance on many days.
When the power players are in the
game, the sector is wide(~+,- 10 minutes) and you can see money coming
in and leaving at the top and bottom of the hour plus minus about ten
minutes. When the sector is narrow(~+,-6 minutes) and the prem and
tick are inconclusive the trend is weak and there might not be enough
followthrough to be profitable. Put entries on strong
bullish days come after the top of the hour, and on weak days the
deterioration begins before the top of the hour. Likewise for calls at
the bottom of the hour.
8. Trade 5 contracts to start with and set
a minimum daily goal of $500.
9. Look for a one point gain from the Ask
entry to the Bid exit(only trade long calls and long puts). Once you
get the one point gain, don't give it back. Move your stop as the
option goes more in the money.
10. Don't hold overnight, and especially
don't hold over weekends or holidays to avoid time decay, volatility change,
and premium adjustments.
11. Increase the number of contracts as
the account grows.
12. Don't overtrade, two to four
roundtrip trades would not be overtrading.
That's pretty much it. Grind it out
day after day. Use stops based on the option premium. Since you
are daytrading, time decay will not be significant unless you get into or
out of a trade too close to the open or close of the day when they are
adjusted. Be wary of premium changes on Friday close and Monday
open. Thus wait at least 15 to 30 minutes after the open and be
careful going into the close. If the trend is strong and
with your trade you can play closer to the close. This is more
significant during expiration week which gives you the best trades because
of the gamma effect. Just be sure you know what you are doing and what
the name of the game is. No doubt there will be controversy about this
system, and it could be improved with additional timing tools.
bobr
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Ray
Raffurty
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:08
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] setups
Hi Bob,
You wrote "<FONT face="Courier New"
size=3>I had an options system that could quintuple the account in 5 weeks
of OEX trading. It was so boring I quite trading
it.
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size=3>
Sent it to me
{;-)
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Good luck and
good trading,
<FONT face="Courier New"
size=3>
Ray
Raffurty
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href="mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>BobR
To: <A
title=MedianLine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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; <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003
2:19 PM
Subject: [RT] setups
OK, this is the setup I am looking at for a long
exit/short entry. Todaymarks the 4th day of a positive NDX net
percent up down volume (up -down)/total. A lower high on the
4th bar of a 4 bar set with a higher highon the NDX may be a prelude
to a down day the next day...at least that isthe thesis being
examined. Perhaps it is reinventing the wheel, butdiscovery
sure is fun as is the journey. I had an options system that
couldquintuple the account in 5 weeks of OEX trading. It was
so boring I quitetrading it, |;-)
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