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Re: [RT] Which wheel???



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Look to the parts of Gann and Elliot that are based 
upon price action.  Then look for a couple of indicators that will confirm 
or reject the move of the price action. 
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  Sean Cassidy 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:29 
  PM
  Subject: [RT] Which wheel???
  
  Thats a bit of my issue as well. If you are 
  willing and able to do the work, it is still hard to know which direction to 
  pursue. I think that given current market conditions, my most likey avenue of 
  succes would be to trade a market or markets, probably not the S&P, 5 to 7 
  times a day. But there are so many varied opinions out there, its hard to tell 
  which are valid and which may be less effective. Without getting defensive, it 
  reminds me of the PC issues I had a few weeks ago. I had responses taking me 
  in about 10 directions (all constructuve, and I appreciate that) and it turned 
  out that my pc was just clogged, reinstalling windows 98 seems to of fixed the 
  problem. In short, I still am not sure exactly what direction to 
  pursue....although price action seems to be my preffered method. Any advice 
  will be appreciated.
   
  SMC
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    Hill, 
    Ernie 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'">'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx' 
    
    Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:56 
    PM
    Subject: RE: [RT] Ernie's System
    
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Perhaps if those of you who claim that making money in the markets is 
    so SIMPLE would merely enlighten those who are trying to "re-invent" the 
    wheel, as opposed to offering only criticism, then maybe you would have the 
    answer to your own question.
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    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>One who has no wheel must either walk or make his 
    own.
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>E
    
      
      <FONT 
      face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bobh 
      [mailto:BHEISLER@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:59 
      PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] 
      Ernie's System
      That sounds good but the markets have been 
      moving the same way since there have been markets.  If you look 
      at "bare" charts from 50+ years ago (any market) and 
      compare them to recent charts you couldn't tell them 
      apart.  The only thing that changes is volatility/liquidity.  
      
       
      What never seems to change though 
      is the endless quest to make the simple complicated, along 
      with the failure to recognize the distinction between methods 
      & trading them.
       
      B
       
       
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "RB" <<A 
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      To: <<A 
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      Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:17 
      PM
      Subject: Re: [RT] Ernie's 
      System
      <FONT 
      face=Verdana size=2>> Because it is what keeps things moving and 
      hopefully better.  The wheel> will hopefully always get better 
      and be reinvented over and over.  I am so> glad they are now 
      rubber.  Maybe next will be, never go flat and almost last> 
      forever.  Or another material that is softer but better than 
      rubber?   The> flintstones are funny to watch but those 
      stone wheels probably don't ride to> good.> > ----- 
      Original Message -----> From: "ira" <<A 
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      size=2>mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT face=Verdana 
      size=2>>> To: <<A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=Verdana 
      size=2>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT face=Verdana 
      size=2>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:24 PM> 
      Subject: Re: [RT] Ernie's System> > > > why does 
      everyone want to reinvent the wheel?> > ----- Original Message 
      -----> > From: "John Cappello" <<A 
      href="mailto:jvc689@xxxxxxx";><FONT face=Verdana 
      size=2>jvc689@xxxxxxx>> 
      > To: <<FONT 
      face=Verdana size=2>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT 
      face=Verdana size=2>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:42 
      AM> > Subject: [RT] Ernie's System> >> 
      >> > > Dear Ernie,> > >> > > I 
      never consider these "show-offs" but rather sharing successes and> 
      > > or failures. I hope it walks forward for you. I can not tell you 
      the> > > number of times I have had faulty walk 
      forwards.> > >> > > I once thought that I had 
      the ultimate. Backtested and trained on 4> > > years of back 
      data where it was quite profitable...and a flop in the> > > 
      walk forward...even the logic still seems sound.> > >> 
      > > I have recently taken a different approach and trained a system 
      on 3> > > years back data and then successfully saw it 
      perform on the year> > > prior with success. Now it is 
      walking forward and we shall see.> > >> > > Such 
      are the vagaries of system development especially with the 
      S&P.> > >> > > John> > 
      >> > >> > >> > > 
      ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------> > > 
      Originally From: Ernie Bonugli <<A 
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      > > Subject: Re: [RT] I-Master Mechanical Trading System 2002 
      S&P 500> > > Date: 01/05/2003 12:45pm> > 
      >> > >> > > list,> > >> 
      > > Let me show off the private system that I am working on?  I 
      could not> > > resist. Time will tell whether the logic its 
      may be curve> > > fitted to the data?!> > 
      >> > >> > > Regards,> > > 
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