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All,
Careful this is a trading forum, let's all remember 
that.   We go beyond and no one makes money, other than the politicians, 
which already do, no matter what side you are on.
don ewers
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  Johnson 
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:40 
  PM
  Subject: [RT] Re: GEN: DEFLATION AND 
  GOLD....
  
  Whether the current administration "inherited" or 
  "created" its problems not important.
   
  What is important is the manner in which the 
  present administration is executing its job.  They ran for office, and 
  now they are there.
   
   
  And so, what have they done?
   
  The "anti-big-government candidate" has done more 
  to enlarge the federal government and encroach on individual freedom than any 
  other president in  my lifetime.   How long will we hear about 
  9/11 justifying blowing the budget, and going back 
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  The "experienced, disciplined foreign policy 
  team" has a new policy story every day, and they continually contradict each 
  other in public pronouncements;  These public contradictions are 
  really disagreements, not planned disinformation.  The appearance is that 
  of confusion, not direction, purpose, and focus.
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  The economic policy team is hardly worth 
  mentioning -- the latest polls determine actions, not any sort of cohesive 
  plan.  Am I the only one embarrassed by the ramblings of O'Neill when he 
  goes out of his way to offend foreign countries?  There were reports that 
  his major contribution to Alcoa was to shore-up the safety record.  Great 
  qualifications for a treasury secretary.
   
  I don't know if we are really on the edge of an 
  economic crisis as some here say.  But it really scares the hell out of 
  me to realize that our country is led by a team that I would not even hire for 
  my own business, starting especially at the top.  (How long before the 
  business leaders of this country acknowledge that George Bush REALLY is NOT 
  wearing clothes?  It is amazing how the earlier defenders of his 
  performance deficiencies (needs time, experience, etc.) have really gone 
  silent.  Even his dad's friends.
   
  I travel internationally every few weeks, and 
  have observed a catastrophic change in the image, respect, and regard for 
  America, American interests, and Americans.  We have become the "bad 
  guys" nearly everywhere.  If anyone here thinks this is good for our 
  business and market future, then think again.
   
   
  What do we need?
   
  (1)    A coherent, straight story 
  every single day.  Not changing according to the latest polls, or the 
  latest talk with "dad".  Who here can say they really know what the 
  administrations policies and strategies are?
   
  (2)    Real protection of markets, 
  not just when it is politically convenient.
   
  (3)    Don't talk war if we don't 
  mean it.  Don't "leak" battle plans, just execute them, if we mean 
  them.  If we don't mean it, then stop saying it so the whole world can 
  get back to normal, whatever that is.  
   
  (4)    Please please don't get us 
  into another Vietnam.  (But it is already too late, I fear).
   
  (5)    Don't look into "Putin's 
  soul" any more;  he looked back and saw what he was challenged by, and 
  slept very well that night.  (I hate to ponder the IQ gap between Bush 
  and Putin).
   
  (6)    Republican congressmen must 
  disassociate themselves from Bush; he will lead them to a massive loss of 
  power in the next two elections, as he manages to alienate nearly every 
  definable constituency group, excepting the far right Christian 
  brigade.
   
  (7)    Get control of the 
  administration.  Provide an INTERNAL forum to iron out disputes, then 
  decide the policy, and execute.  The public squabbling is a clear sign of 
  no internal dispute resolution process or dialog.  Get rid of 
  O'Neill and put a pro into the job.  Get rid of Ashworth (send him 
  to Iraq or Saudi Arabia, where he'll fit in just fine) and find an attorney 
  general who can both fight criminals AND respect American freedoms, not Saudi 
  freedoms.
   
  and so on.
   
  Dave Johnson
   
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  Date: Wed, 21 
  Aug 2002 05:52:56 -0500   From: "Bob Heisler" <<A 
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  size=3>>Subject: Re: GEN:  DEFLATION AND GOLD....I'm just 
  a lowly trader who is not an economist or a CNBC talking head and am therefore 
  grossly under-qualified to either give advice on economic/fiscal policy or 
  criticize/praise the current economic team.But what I do know is that 
  the current administration inherited a post-bubble economy and a post-bubble 
  bear market (the NDX was 45% off its all-time high when Bush took 
  office).  Toss in 911 and even someone as under-qualified as myself can 
  see that their timing could have been better....like inheriting a recovery and 
  the early stages of the PC revolution in the early 90's.I hear a lot 
  of bashing of these folks but I hear nothing from the critics on what we 
  should be doing - except raising taxes and increasing government 
  spending/entitlements.  Even the infamous Lord Rubin, who bravely fled to 
  Singapore once the Enron news came out, has offered only these 
  solutions.  But if history is to be our guide then that type of policy is 
  exactly what we shouldn't adapt.What I'd like to hear from the critics 
  are some concrete ideas on what should be done as opposed to the daily/hourly 
  criticisms and negative sound bites.  And those ideas should include a 
  plan on how to get any new policy changes through the Congress (particularly 
  the Senate).I look forward to being 
  educated.BobTo unsubscribe from this 
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