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RE: [RT] John Murphy notes: the market isn't "cheap"



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You mean I can trade a Head and Shoulder top for a small risk and make a
great gain on many occasions, 50% of the time? Your right...sounds
pretty ordinary...i want something that works 90% and makes 10/1 reward
to risk..  :-)

Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: M. Simms [mailto:prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2002 7:10 AM
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [RT] John Murphy notes: the market isn't "cheap"
> 
> 
> WARNING, WARNING....John is getting pretty old and so are his 
> techniques.....
> 
> backtesting Head and Shoulders patterns shows no better than 
> a 50% prediction of significant, tradeable bottom or top. 
> Many fantastic "reversal" rallies have emanated from the neckline....
> 
> GOTTA DO YOUR HOMEWORK, John....and less appearances !
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Funck [mailto:gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:02 PM
> > To: Realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx Com
> > Subject: [RT] John Murphy notes: the market isn't "cheap"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.murphymorris.com/affiliate/market_watch.html
> >
> > John Murphy's Market Watch
> >
> > by Mr. John Murphy, President of MURPHYMORRIS.COM
> >
> > Sat, July 13, 2002 - HEAD AND SHOULDERS TOP?
> > WHAT IS IT?... Quoting from the Glossary in my book 
> Technical Analysis 
> > of the Financial Markets: "A head and shoulders top is the 
> best known 
> > of the reversal
> > patterns. At a market top, three prominent peaks are formed with
> > the middle
> > peak (or head) slightly higher than the other two peaks
> > (shoulders). When the
> > trendline (neckline) connecting the two intervening troughs 
> is broken, the
> > pattern is complete." While most major averages show a similar
> > pattern, we're
> > using the NYSE Composite Index for illustration purposes because
> > we believe it
> > probably gives the best overall measure of the state of the
> > "market". There's
> > no question that the chart has the look of a "head and shoulders"
> > top. The two
> > "shoulders" were formed during 1998 and 2002. The "head" formed
> > during 2000.
> > The "neckline" is drawn under the 1998-2001 reaction lows. 
> As of Friday's
> > close, the neckline is already been pierced on the downside, but
> > not by much.
> > There are two other support levels that bear watching. The 
> first is the
> > intra-day low hit last fall (which is at 494). The second (and
> > more important)
> > is the late 1998 low at 463. Friday's close was only a 
> shade below last
> > September's low, but not by enough to call this a clear breakdown
> > -- at least
> > not yet. Regarding the breaking of the "neckline", there's also a
> > 3% rule which
> > comes into play at major chart points. That means that the
> > neckline needs to be
> > broken by at least 3% before we can call it a "major" breakdown.
> > We may get
> > there (about 485), but we're not there yet. Unless the market
> > attempts a rally
> > soon, however, a breakdown could be imminent, which could 
> carry the market
> > lower into the September/October period.
> > [...]
> > THE MARKET ISN'T CHEAP... The purpose of looking at the long-term
> > charts isn't
> > to scare anyone. Our main goal is to show that this market 
> isn't cheap. In
> > fact, it's still historically very high. We've expressed the view
> > several times
> > before that we believe the twenty-year bull cycle has ended. That
> > means the
> > current bear market could last longer -- and fall much further --
> > than most
> > people realize. We don't know how low it can go. It's the 
> direction that
> > matters most -- not the actual numbers. The "head and shoulders"
> > tops shown in
> > the preceding charts is another warning that things could 
> still get a lot
> > worse. As the message is finally getting across to the public
> > that this bear
> > market is indeed different from those in the recent past, 
> mutual fund
> > redemptions are starting. Imagine what could happen when the
> > public finally
> > decides to start selling.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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