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Out of print I'm told. Looks like I'll have to stick to Miner.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Pitt" <apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record


> Earl,
>
> Miners work is good, but his EW is fairly simplistic, but he does
> put it into a form that can be used by traders.  If anyone truly wants
> to understand markets better and apply Elliott Wave in a far more
> accurate and scientific way there is ONLY ONE SOURCE of good
> information.
> and that's Glen Neely's book.  I STRONGLY WARN readers though not to
> bother
> With it unless EWT really takes your interest.  It's a big book and
> EVERY PAGE
> has critical information on it, so lots of learning and practicing. But
> it
> works, impeccably.  Its not a book about trading though, only accurate
> wave
> reading.
>
> Adrian
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Earl Adamy [mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 1:46 AM
> > To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
> >
> >
> > I think you make two valid points: know how to do the counts
> > yourself and be able to control/apply your own counts when
> > you don't like the automated counts. I highly recommend the
> > simplified EW approach used by Robert Miner in his Dynamic
> > Trader book ($100 with full money back guarantee at
> > www.dynamictraders.com) ... I don't use the DT3 software. I'm
> > not familiar with EW3 (I did have WinWaves and didn't care
> > for it), however AGet which I use, allows one to control
> > counts to a limited degree (short term, aggressive, regular,
> > long term, plus localize) ... as a last resort I just turn
> > the EW counts off and apply my own labels.
> >
> > Earl
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "wavemechanic" <wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
> >
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Karen Beckwith
> >   To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:16 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
> >
> >
> >   Jeff:
> >   Looking for a holy grail?  Have u ever looked into the EW3
> > (Elliott Wave)
> >   software?  I can't find anyone who uses it, but it sounds
> > awfully good.
> >   Anyone here familiar w/ EW3?
> >
> >   I have not used EWII but did use the previous version
> > WinWaves, and EWII is supposed to have a better analysis
> > engine.  However, a couple of thoughts.  What is the correct
> > count?  There are many counts and in the last analysis the
> > only one that is right is yours.  So being able to do your
> > own count is important, and the software is a tool to
> > increase your efficiency and, perhaps, help you over the
> > rough spots.  Having said that, one important feature that I
> > would be sure to have is the ability to input my count and
> > see how it plays.  Most EW programs do not have this option,
> > but if I recall correctly ELWave does.  FWIW.
> >
> >   best wishes,
> >   karen
> >   ps - May the force be with you.
> >   :>)
> >   :>)
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >   To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >   Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM
> >   Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
> >
> >
> >   >
> >   > "If one tries to fight these forces they will be destroyed. If one
> >   > can unite and redirect these forces to
> >   > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite swiftly."
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > Sounds like a re-run of Kung Fu.
> >   > Grasshopper, my son, be of unity with the universe.
> >   > Now catch this fly in my soup.
> >   >
> >   > Please enlighten me, how does one unite and redirect
> > these forces to
> >   > ones advantage?
> >   >
> >   > How do I redirect a drought in the midwest, terrorist
> > attack crashing
> >   > the S & P , lumber import regulations vs. canadian exports?
> >   >
> >   > Fundamentals, schmundamentals, blah, blah.
> >   >
> >   > I have the force, the unity, the polarity...
> >   >
> >   > Beam me up Scotty,  for I have discovered how markets
> >   > work,  yet I waste my time trolling for fish.
> >   > Why is that?
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxx> wrote:
> >   > > Reinar,
> >   > >
> >   > >   From one sailor to another, when one's sailboat hits
> > a sand bar,
> >   > that's
> >   > > called running a ground and that's not a good thing.
> >   > >
> >   > >  I know it's time for me to take a vacation. Your
> > sailing metaphor
> >   > is
> >   > > starting to make sense to me.<G>  Seriously, I agree
> > that sailing
> >   > is a good
> >   > > analogy for trading, but not for the reasons you have stated. I
> >   > think
> >   > > sailing is a good analogy for trading because in order to be
> >   > successful, one
> >   > > must join with the huge natural forces at work.  If one tries to
> >   > fight these
> >   > > forces they will be destroyed. If one can unite and
> > redirect these
> >   > forces to
> >   > > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite swiftly.
> >   > >
> >   > >  Gann fans - the ideal position to attain maximum speed
> > is to have
> >   > the sail
> >   > > at a 45 degree angle to the wind.
> >   > >
> >   > > Nautically,
> >   > >
> >   > > Norman
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > From: "reinar2020" <reinar2020@xxxx>
> >   > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> >   > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM
> >   > > Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track record
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > > Elk
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Not only will I continue to use sailing as a metaphor
> > but I will
> >   > > > expand the use. There are several reasons. Selling to "the
> >   > traders"
> >   > > > market is too limiting and more imortant.... If you can think
> >   > like a
> >   > > > sailor you can think like a profitable trader......
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > > If you have ever been sailing you would know that it
> > is kind of a
> >   > > > zen like experience where you have a very specific
> > focus. All the
> >   > BS
> >   > > > that is provided by the media etc is gone.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > There are other advantages. Any monkey can draw an
> > Andrews line
> >   > and
> >   > > > if you read his totally incomplete "free" 60 page
> > lit.... at any
> >   > > > time there are at least 20 or so that come in
> > tomorrow. So which
> >   > > > ones do you use? Rather than take the standard
> > approach of here
> >   > are
> >   > > > the lines .....let get overwhelmed with stuff that is
> > useless.....
> >   > > >
> >   > > > I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a marker.
> >   > > > I did something similar in Vienna seminars and the
> > sucess rate of
> >   > > > the students over a long time period was very high.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Focus upon the chicken ( the end result.. you really
> > want ) not on
> >   > > > the eggs.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > We look for 4 things...
> >   > > >
> >   > > > 1) sand bars (support and resistance lines) where
> > prices stop for
> >   > a
> >   > > > bar or 2 and then go through
> >   > > >
> >   > > > 2) sand bars where prices go through and then go back to it to
> >   > touch
> >   > > > it before continuing in the proper direction
> >   > > >
> >   > > > (the above are very handy for adding on positions or
> > getting in
> >   > with
> >   > > > definable risk....the other side of the sand bar line)
> >   > > >
> >   > > > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely to produce a
> > tradeable
> >   > > > pivot ....like i pointed out on thursday in an email
> > I sent out.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > 4) and then how to find markers (probable future pivot points)
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Now instead of learning how to draw all of those
> > silly lines you
> >   > > > learned how to draw lines that produced the above
> > .......wouldn't
> >   > > > Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Oh by the way did you ever learn what the Andrews
> > "ROS" line was?
> >   > > > Hint....its a sand bar.
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Regards
> >   > > > R
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, Infernal Elk
> > <infernalelk@xxxx> wrote:
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > >>  John either you are blind or you faded the forecast.
> >   > > > > >>  ...or does north mean go short to you?
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > >>  R
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > maybe if you spoke in market terms rather than
> > cryptic pseudo-
> >   > > > poetic
> >   > > > > "nautical" terms, people would understand you.
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > if your desire is to communicate, then do so
> > CLEARLY.  if your
> >   > > > desire
> >   > > > > is to tease and to draw people in to buy your
> > product you'll do
> >   > > > better
> >   > > > > to speak clearly as well.
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > we're not sailors.  we're traders.
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > - *lk
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
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