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OddBall is based on market breadth.  Market breadth takes 
each stock in a portfolio and decides whether it is above/at/below from it's 
previous close.  After summing all stocks for this criteria, you have an 
"Advancing" count, an "Unchanged" count, and a "Declining" count.
 
Range of prices and highest-highs don't come into 
play.
 
Kent
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <A 
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title=Duke.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Duke Jones - Portfolio Manager 

To: <A href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [RT]Group Breadth


<FONT color=navy face=Arial 
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sorry if this is a duplicate as I also sent this to the Omega list looking for 
help&#8230;
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<FONT color=navy 
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pondering the idea of trying to enhance oddball and other<FONT 
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<FONT color=navy 
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">breadth based 
systems by trying to code customs groups. I thought I would<FONT 
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<FONT color=navy 
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style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">see if I could 
pick the brains of the group here in regards to ideas on<FONT 
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<FONT color=navy 
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">calculating 
intraday breadth. One of the problems I am having is trying 
to<SPAN 
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<FONT color=navy 
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">calculate the 
range of prices on an intraday basis. If the highs and lows<FONT 
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<FONT color=navy 
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">etc of each 
security happened to fall all on the same bar not a 
problem...<SPAN 
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<FONT color=navy 
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<FONT color=navy 
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style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <FONT 
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<FONT color=navy 
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">However, trying 
to find a way build a realistic chart is escaping me. Do you<FONT 
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<FONT color=navy 
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style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">take the 
highest high for the bar or do you take the highest high for 
the<SPAN 
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<FONT color=navy 
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">day and keep 
that unit price etc. Since we are talking multiple securities<FONT 
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<FONT color=navy 
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style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">this can become 
complex. In plotting a quick excel version the range of<FONT 
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<FONT color=navy 
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begin to differ quickly based on the method used. Anyone have 
any<SPAN 
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<FONT color=navy 
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sources they could recommend?<FONT color=navy face="Courier New" 
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<FONT color=navy 
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<FONT color=navy 
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<FONT 
color=navy>"The Secret to the Market is Rotation, 
Rotation, Rotation." The Frost Sector Rotation Fund is part of the Frost Bank 
family of Funds. (CFR-NYSE)<SPAN 
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<FONT color=black face=Tahoma 
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style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original 
Message-----From: Wong 
[mailto:whs@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: 
Monday, June 17, 2002 5:32 PM<SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: [RT] paintbar 
indicator
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<FONT color=black 
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All:<SPAN 
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a paintbar indicator based on the article "The Lazy Man's Guide 
toLong-Term Investing" by Dr. R. M. Sidewitz.  The article 
appeared on TASC -Nov 2001 - pp 84-85.In his 
article, he said: "Are you a buy-and-hold believer?  Enhance 
yourreturns by using this simple technnique ...  This simple 
method hascaptured above 90% of the entire gain of the Dow Jones 
Idnustrial Averagesince 1920."In his article, he 
mentioned 4 scenarios.  The last one is:"If the high for 
the year is ABOVE the high of the preceding year, the lowfor the 
year is BELOW the low for the previous year, and the lower 
lowPRECEDED the higher high, this suggests that the market has 
completed acorrection and is poised to move higher.  As such, 
conditions are favorablefor committing 
funds."The code I come up with (possibly not exactly 
adhered to what he mentioned)is:Input: 
period(12);IF highest(h,period)>highest(h,period)[period] 
andlowest(l,period)<lowest(l,period)[period] 
andclose>=(highest(h,period)[1]+lowest(l,period)[1])/2 
andclose>=highest(h,period)[1]*0.95 Then 
Begin  Plot1(High,"PBHigh");  
Plot2(Low,"PBLow");  IF CheckAlert Then Alert = 
TRUE;End;I'm attaching the ela and 
accompanying Nasdaq daily, weekly and dailycharts with the paintbar 
indicator, which I name as "market4".Do whatever you want 
to do.  If you have a modified/improved version,please let us 
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