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Re: Re[6]: [RT] Fibo predictions



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Clyde, I meant to enclose the gif 
sorry.
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  Don 
  Ewers 
  To: <A 
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  Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 5:13 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Re[6]: [RT] Fibo 
  predictions
  
  Clyde,
  Just a thought but if I understand your chart 
  correctly, it is comparing just "the ratio of any leg to prior leg difference 
  in price".
   
  What if the prior leg has "multiple legs" down 
  like the SP cash from the high 1552.87 to the Sept low 969.73 and the 
  resulting reaction up leg is multiple legs?
   
  Does your study just cover just single swings to 
  the prior swing and not multiple legs to multiple swing leg 
  retracements?
  don ewers
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    Clyde Lee 
    
    To: <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 3:13 
    PM
    Subject: Re: Re[6]: [RT] Fibo 
    predictions
    
    What does it take to prove that Fib 
    numbers have no validity in
    estimating where prices might make a 
    turn.
     
    I have posted several charts which 
    clearly prove this is the 
    case and yet we continue to hear BS 
    about Fib numbers.
     
    Just to make it clear, here is an 
    explanation of the method
    behind the attached chart.
     
    Consider a swing such as the 
    following"
     
    <FONT face="Courier New" 
    size=2>        b
           / 
    \
          
    /   \
         
    /     \
        
    a       \
    <FONT face="Courier New" 
    size=2>             
    \ 
    <FONT face="Courier New" 
    size=2>              
    c
     
    and calculate the ratio  
    (b-a)/(b-c)
     
    or a swing of the following 
    type
     
        a
         \ 

          
    \
           
    \     c
    <FONT face="Courier New" 
    size=2>        \   
    /
    <FONT face="Courier New" 
    size=2>         \ /
    <FONT face="Courier New" 
    size=2>          b
     
    and calculate the ratio  
    (a-b)/(c-b)
     
    Do this with a mathematically definable 
    method
    of picking swings and accumulate the 
    ratios in
    a spread sheet, sort the data by ratio, 
    and make
    a chart.
     
    The attached is exactly that chart for 
    the S&P
    index from 1930 until now using an 8 
    bar length
    window for picking pivots.
     
    A careful examination will indicate a 
    more or less
    CONTINUIOUS distribution of ratios of 
    the 1713 swings
    which existed in the period of study 
    and had a ratio
    of less than 2.0.
     
    If there were ANY VALIDITY to the 
    concept of turning
    of prices at FIB levels then there 
    would be a bunching
    of data about the various FIB levels 
    and not the very
    continuous distribution that is found 
    in the data.
     
    Again, people may use the fib levels as 
    levels at
    which to be aware of potential turns in 
    direction of
    prices but the analysis says that we 
    are just as well
    off with a random set of lines since 
    there will not
    be any grouping around them 
    either.
     
    Please, examine these data in detail 
    and if I am
    missing something then provide the data 
    or interpretation
    of these data that says 
    otherwise.
     
    Clyde
     
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      ztrader 
      
      To: <A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 1:37 
      PM
      Subject: Re[6]: [RT] Fibo 
      predictions
      On Saturday, April 13, 2002, 11:10:12 AM, wavemechanic 
      wrote:w>   Are you thinking that confluence is 
      associated with Fibs only?w>   Could it be extended to 
      any coincidence of indicators?w>   As long as the 
      indicators are truely different (e.g., velocity vs acceleration, 
      etc.).How about a 50 ma and a 200 ma with identical values, and 
      price isapproaching this value? Would this 'confluence' have more 
      importancethan if the two ma's had quite different 
      values?ztraderTo 
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