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Re: Re[6]: [RT] Fibo predictions



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What does it take to prove that Fib numbers 
have no validity in
estimating where prices might make a 
turn.
 
I have posted several charts which clearly 
prove this is the 
case and yet we continue to hear BS about 
Fib numbers.
 
Just to make it clear, here is an 
explanation of the method
behind the attached chart.
 
Consider a swing such as the 
following"
 
        
b
       / 
\
      
/   \
     
/     \
    
a       \
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size=2>             
\ 
<FONT face="Courier New" 
size=2>              
c
 
and calculate the ratio  
(b-a)/(b-c)
 
or a swing of the following 
type
 
    a
     \ 
      
\
       
\     c
        
\   /
<FONT face="Courier New" 
size=2>         \ /
<FONT face="Courier New" 
size=2>          b
 
and calculate the ratio  
(a-b)/(c-b)
 
Do this with a mathematically definable 
method
of picking swings and accumulate the ratios 
in
a spread sheet, sort the data by ratio, and 
make
a chart.
 
The attached is exactly that chart for the 
S&P
index from 1930 until now using an 8 bar 
length
window for picking pivots.
 
A careful examination will indicate a more 
or less
CONTINUIOUS distribution of ratios of the 
1713 swings
which existed in the period of study and 
had a ratio
of less than 2.0.
 
If there were ANY VALIDITY to the concept 
of turning
of prices at FIB levels then there would be 
a bunching
of data about the various FIB levels and 
not the very
continuous distribution that is found in 
the data.
 
Again, people may use the fib levels as 
levels at
which to be aware of potential turns in 
direction of
prices but the analysis says that we are 
just as well
off with a random set of lines since there 
will not
be any grouping around them 
either.
 
Please, examine these data in detail and if 
I am
missing something then provide the data or 
interpretation
of these data that says 
otherwise.
 
Clyde
 
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  Subject: Re[6]: [RT] Fibo 
  predictions
  On Saturday, April 13, 2002, 11:10:12 AM, wavemechanic 
  wrote:w>   Are you thinking that confluence is associated 
  with Fibs only?w>   Could it be extended to any coincidence 
  of indicators?w>   As long as the indicators are truely 
  different (e.g., velocity vs acceleration, etc.).How about a 50 ma and 
  a 200 ma with identical values, and price isapproaching this value? Would 
  this 'confluence' have more importancethan if the two ma's had quite 
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