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Re: [RT] Odd Ball System Results



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In a message dated 4/13/02 12:12:09 AM Central Daylight Time, jvc689@xxxxxxx 
writes:

<< To those interested:

****** You mean to those interested who have not been kicked off the 
Realtraders List.
 
 This is a list of results for Oddball original system as taken from a 
 tester's website. 

****** Who is the tester?  What is their web site?  Why so vague?

Figures take into consideration S&P split.

******* What the heck is an S&P Split?  Do I get a cherry on top of it if I 
order one at the CME soda counter?
 
 The variations posted did better but, not by much.

******* Which variations?  Compared to what?

 Numbers rounded and approximate.

******** Why not use the specific numbers?  What are the assumptions of the 
data?  Real results or hypothetical?  Slippage and commission figured in or 
not?  If so, what were they?
 
 Drawdowns noted at Oddball site for most recent 2 + years; but '99 
 can give an idea of disaster if profits taken off the table or 
 started that year. 

****** Disaster? Yes, any program that you get in at the worst time can be a 
disaster and exceed the traders risk tolerance. 

 2001   168,000
 2000   249,000
 1999   -41,000
 1998    60,000
 1997    40,000
 1996    45,000
 1995    -2,000
 1994    10,000
 1993     8,000
 1992    17,000
 1991    24,000
 1990    39,000
 1989    48,000
 1988    28,000
 1987    29,000
 
 Optimized, curve fitted or au naturale I do not know.

******* So you really have not done any in-depth study of the system?  How 
many curve fitted programs have you seen the code for?  Have you ever seen a 
curve fitted system with so few lines of code?

 You be the  judge.

******** In RealTraders it is you be the judge and the jury.

 In whatever case you choose it still ranks up there with the best systems I 
have seen in the public domain.

********  So you have not done any in-depth analysis of the basic system, but 
you can draw this analysis?  What other public domain systems did you compare 
it to?  How did they perform relative to Oddball?  Did they have disasters 
too?  More or less disasters?

******** Did you attempt to modify the Oddball system with any of the things 
that you have learned from the desk of you analyst?

******** Do you think that maybe the designer of this system publicly offered 
a basic version of it that might spur people to learn to how to develop their 
own systems or versions of Oddball that fit their own trading personality and 
risk tolerances?  We could ask him about this, but then......dang......!

Regards,

John J. Lothian

Disclosure:  Futures trading involves financial risk, lots of it!




 
 John
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