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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Steve Karnish 
  [mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:05 
  PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] Fib 
  Levels and Fib Spread sheets
  Lee,
   
  These are simple (dark lines) and expo (light 
  lines) moving averages that are pegged to 13, 21, 34, 55, 89 and 144.  
  Fib numbers do not need to be pigeon holed and tied to only 
  retracements.  My mechanical approaches are powered by common formulas 
  (Chande's work) with fib numbers substituted for the most common default 
  assignments.
   
  Take care,
   
  Steve
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    Lee Morris 
    
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    Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 
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    Subject: RE: [RT] Fib Levels and Fib 
    Spread sheets
    
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    size=2>could you explain how these fib moving average are derived as I am 
    not familiar with combining Fib and moving averages
    
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      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Steve Karnish [<A 
      href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: 
      Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:15 PMTo: <A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
      Re: [RT] Fib Levels and Fib Spread sheets
      LIst,
       
      I've used fib moving averages to "frame" the 
      market for the past half-dozen years.  Although, I prefer strictly 
      mechanical approaches (past 25 years), the fib moving averages tell a 
      "story" that, at times, can be very interesting.  Since the word 
      "confluence" has entered the discussion, I thought I might post an 
      observation:
       
      When fib moving averages converge and narrow 
      to a adnormally small range, large moves are just around the corner.  
      Note the convergence of the week of Nov. 5th in cocoa and the same for 
      heating oil in late February.  
       
      Fairly subjective, but the multi-colored 
      lines are sure pretty.  Besides that, the "convergence" of these 
      moving averages have "launched and tanked" many a move since I've been 
      paying attention.
       
      Take care,
       
      Steve
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        Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:29 
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        Fib Spread sheets
        
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        size=2>Confluence is the key word here.
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        size=2>But not alone confluence of fib retracements. 

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        size=2>Confluenece for me means a point (or area) where at least 3 
        studies come together:
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        size=2>- intern and extern retracements
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        size=2>- price extension
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        size=2>Then wait for market reaction.
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          size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: Lee Morris 
          [mailto:LMorris@xxxxxxxxxx]Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. April 
          2002 15:03An: 
          realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxBetreff: RE: [RT] Fib Levels and 
          Fib Spread sheets
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          size=2>The issue with fibs is that a retracement will likely stop at a 
          fib level but which one. I have found some success at drawing a gann 
          fan or box from the pivot and very often one of the lines will go 
          right though one of the fib levels. More often then not that seems to 
          be the level where we get a turn. I also have had luck at finding the 
          confluence of multiple fibs as good support.
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          <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
          size=2>I am trying to improve a way to better track these confluence 
          points and am just starting to consider building a simple spread sheet 
          to track the fib levels from multiple swings and compile the 
          confluence points. Has anyone else done this and have a spread sheet 
          that they would be willing to share with the 
group.
          
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            size=2>-----Original Message-----From: rjv 
            [mailto:rjv@xxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 
            1:04 AMTo: RealTradersSubject: [RT] 
            ztraderSince the RT list is about trading, 
            which I would assume includesmethodologies, then fib 
            relationships should be a valid discussion. Ifor one use them as 
            a major tool and would be very happy to see howothers may use 
            these relationships in all their forms as applied to bothprice 
            and time. So, even if it's just you and I, ztrader, I think we 
            canconverse on the 
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