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counterpoints Bob - <FONT
color=#0000ff size=2>as they say ...."we'll see"...if people will pay-up for the
added enhancements and services.
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size=2>-----Original Message-----From: bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:55
PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [RT]
AOLAOL is very misunderstood. Very mis-represented by
their sales force. People think when they pay for AOL service and dial in,
they are on the internet. They are not. They are on AOL servers! It is
possible to get to the internet if you know how but even if you are able to do
that, you are still traveling the internet with AOL baggage. The gateway that
AOL provides will not give you full access to all web sites. AOL decides what
is good for you to see and what is not. Asked, they will tell you that since
people pay them, if their kids end up on porn sites, they can be sued while a
true Isp does not operate "services" but only a passage way. Ask for sports
scores and you get AOL sports scores. Ask for movies and you get AOL movie
reviews .. why? Because they have you on *their* servers and *their*
commercial sponsors can assail you with ads. If you actually find your way off
AOL and on to the *real* internet, they lose access to you. God
forbid.Also, I agree totally with the comments below about dsl
service. This is a service best provided by the phone companies and they are
most certainly providing it. Cable is better now but cable is only as fast as
the traffic on the line. The more traffic, the slower your connection. With
dsl, you have a dedicated line and your speed is constant. Now if AOL provides
a dsl connection with all their dedicated mumbo jumbo... now that might add to
their business.. people want simplicity and they will take it at the expense
of quality.Last, people continue to pay up for AOL and there is a very
simple reason for it. AOL makes "getting on line" so simple that no one can
fail to find entertainment. (Whether they are actually on the internet is of
no interest to most people). I do not see this changing soon. AOL users are in
love with it and when you put them in front of a screen with an Isp login,
they only want to do one thing. Get back to their AOL. So, cost and internet
and ads be damn'd, AOL will do fine.BobAt 08:53 PM 4/10/2002
-0400, you wrote: guys, guy, guys....I know this internet / isp
business.....trust me !re: AOL subscriber reduction caused by....
widely known alternate ISPs with a much lower monthly fee and decent
service - that is getting around word-of-mouth: Bluelight.com $9/mo
juno.net/netzero.com $10/mo bigzoo.com $9/moAOL IS AT $24/mo
!!!!!Also, their DSL strategy is flawed......local baby bells have a lock
on the DSL installation... and heck, they are AGGRESSIVELY MARKETING
THIS SERVICE......I just got an phone call this evening ! (I already have
DSL thru a CLEC just coming out of bankruptcy)Finally, COMCAST and
other cable operators are finally getting better at this ISP service (it
used to be terrible via Excite/@xxxx - now bankrupt) and again, these
cable guys are aggressively marketing thru affiliates like Circuit City,
Best Buy, etc.There is just NO WAY I see tremendous growth prospects for
AOL..... again, at best, it's a BUY-WRITE.> -----Original
Message----- > From: Don Ewers [<A href="mailto:dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
eudora="autourl"><FONT
color=#0000ff>mailto:dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent:
Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:28 PM > To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [RT] AOL > > > Bob, > I know
you are and nothing wrong with that, just through out some of that >
"techy stuff" to keep you alert to the possibilities. > Did you happen
to check on the lows was there any good premium in the 20 > puts or
17.5's (as in selling them)? > > Also M. Simms could you
elaborate on why the loss of subscribers, > they sure >
advertise a lot (and do mailings). > don ewers > ----- Original
Message ----- > From: <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002
2:45 PM > Subject: Re: [RT] AOL > > > > Thanks
Don, > > > > As you already know, I am a fundamental
trader but you tech > guys are part > > of my fundamental
scheme. If you are in consort with regard to > an equity, > >
index or commodity, I pay attention. I respect everyone's > ideas and
what > > works for them and you sharing this information is helpful
and > appreciated. > > > > Bob > >
> > > > At 01:40 PM 4/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >
> >BobKC, > > >Here is the 60min chart on AOL (I added the
daily again if needed for > > >reference). > > >
> > >It is just looking at the price structure from minor wave 4
of > wave 5 on > the > > >daily (basically the
point where the regression channels start on the > daily > >
>chart). If the pattern is correct, then it is in the extended wave 3
> range > > >which only happens 8% of the time. In
otherwords a time to > tighten stops > if > > >one
were short or cover. What could happen from here is a wave > 4 rally on
> > >the 60min, followed by another final wave 5 decline
(provided the PTI > stays > > >high enough, currently 99)
that might reach down into the refined area > shown > >
>on the daily. > > > > > >The wave 4 rally could
trigger a "false buy on the daily" (braking the > > >regression
lines and 6/4 ma), which I call the "fooler", until > pattern is
> > >"really" done. > > > > > >As an
add on I have not used 60min charts on stocks all that > much (do on
> > >commodities though) so this falls in the FWIW department
> (meaning little > > >experience as to the accuracy).
> > >don ewers > > > > > >-----
Original Message ----- > > >From: Don Ewers
<dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Wednesday, April
10, 2002 1:05 PM > > >Subject: Re: [RT] AOL > > >
> > > > > > > BobKC, > > > > Here
is what AGET is saying on a daily chart FWIW. > > > > >
> > > Price is definitely into some support areas including the MOB's
and > just > > > > entering the wave 5 target range (I
also did an "internal" wave > projection > > > > of
just wave 5 which shows an even more refineded target range which >
"may" > > > > come into play as well). > > > >
> > > > Typical trade rules would require a break of the
regression channels > or > > >the > > > >
6/4 ma channels to trigger a buy. I will look at a 60min to > see if it
> > > > reveals anything more in detail. If so I will post it.
> > > > don ewers > > > > ----- Original
Message ----- > > > > From: <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:21 PM > > > >
Subject: [RT] AOL > > > > > > > > >
> > > > I felt that a bottom may have been put in for AOL today
and bought > in at > > > > > 20.33. The 20M new
shares was filled without effort and the low > volume > >
> > > leveled ... Warner is worth about $22 as a weighted mc which
means > AOL > > >is > > > > > free and
you get TW at a 10% discount. Just my thoughts and > action.. >
> >all > > > > > due diligence in order of course.
> > > > > > > > > > Bob > >
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