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I respect your views Kent. It is important for me to hear everyone's
thoughts. I said I would not try to press my personal agenda on the list
and I meant that. None the less, unless I see clear evidence to the
contrary, I will continue to believe that courtesy is not a happenstance
trait but rather a required commodity for any group of people our size. I
also will need to see a clear majority who wish to have Mark Brown back on
this list and I do not believe there is even a remote possibility of that
happening. Whatever else we may or may not agree on, I would hope you
agree that a group such as ours should make decisions based on the
democratic concept of majority rules.
As to people selling things on the list, I addressed that in my post with
suggestions for changes to our list description but you left my suggestions
for that part of the new description off your post. There are some
commercial enterprise interests on our list but as long as they don't troll
the list for customers, I don't have a problem with that. I know of three
business owners on here and they all contribute to the list. Business
owners are people too and many if not all, on this list, are traders.
Your point about people making unnecessary short replies to the list is
well taken but as you, yourself, pointed out, we have many newer members of
the trading/investing world who are likely new to computers and mail lists
as well. The bandwidth for a txt email is nearly nonexistent and removing
people for over-exuberance is unlikely to happen.
Again, I thank you for your input and hope you will continue to express
your views which will always be given respective attention.
All best,
Bob
At 11:25 PM 4/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Please keep posts to the point and on the subject matter and refrain from
> >unnecessary short reply posts like "thank you" type replies that use up
> >valuable members' reading time.
>
>I would like to see posting privs for people who violate this rule suspended
>just as much or more than I would like to see people who occassionally
>attack others get booted off the list. "Me toos" and "thank yous" take up
>far more bandwidth and are substantially worth less than some attacks.
>
>
> >Also, please give each member's post the respect it deserves, whether or
> >not you agree with the conclusions reached, and treat each other with
> >professionalism and common decency. Personal attacks are not to be made on
> >this forum. Violators will be removed immediately.
>
> >Posts advertising the sale of any products or services of companies are not
> >tolerated in this forum. Members who post these kind of messages will be
> >removed immediately.
>
>This is the big area of contention. What a lot of people don't know is that
>some people will post market calls or will make subtle references to some
>magic method they use and then when people (mostly newbies) on the list
>approach them privately, the poster will try to sell them something. Many
>of you don't appreciate the fact that this is what Mark Brown was trying to
>expose. You all just get so frosted that he made a personal attack. You
>never consider the reason for the attack. Mark has shown me some of the
>stuff that vendors ON THIS LIST tried to sell him when he contacted them
>privately under an alias.
>
>And let's consider the phrase "give each member's post the respect it
>deserves". Does a post deserve respect just because a member of this list
>made it? I submit the answer is "No". When someone posts "the market will
>go up and the market will go down over the next few days", that is wholly
>deserving of ridicule. Compare profitok's posts to Hohn Capello's. Ben is
>very specific, Capello is very vague. Membership of this list can be broken
>down into 2 categories: the experienced and the inexperienced. I believe
>that when the experienced members of this list take the time to ridicule
>worthless posts, they are doing a service to the inexperienced. How about
>you? They are also BENEFITTING all members of the list because the object
>of ridicule will consider his or her posts more carefully. If the person
>being ridiculed is actually a spammer pretending to make real market calls,
>that person will be more likely to move on in search of more spammable
>pastures. I don't know about you, but I would like to be on a list where
>people who put REAL MONEY behind their trades are the on people posting to
>the list. Not a list where anyone with an email account tosses out
>completely hypothetical crap about what the market may or may not do over a
>hypothetical timeframe. How about you? I'm not interested in the fact that
>Mars is up Uranus. I want to know what that means for the market. How
>about you?
>
>
> >New membership to the Realtraders forum is by invitation only, with the
> >exception of existing members who are changing email addresses.
>
>I would like Mark Brown to be reinstated. And perhaps when he attacks
>someone, the more sensitive members on the list could think about whether or
>not he has a point rather than just getting your panties in a wad.
>
>
> >***Membership in Realtraders is open to anyone who wishes to learn and
> >share information in a professional environment where courtesy and respect
> >of one another is paramount.***
>
>I would like professionalism to be paramount. Professionalism does not mean
>politeness. The respect or lack of respect I get from this list has zero
>effect on my ego. Zero. If I were to post some crap and get hammered for
>it, I would reconsider the crap that I posted, not whine to the moderator.
>And I would much rather belong to a Real Traders list where Real Traders
>acted like Klingons who just won the Soccer World Cup than I would like to
>belong to a list where faux traders treat each other with respect and
>courtesy.
>
>If you had to be on a list with Dic Migrains or Mark Browns, which would you
>choose?
>
>
>Kent
>
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