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Re: [RT] cycles



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Ira,
I agree with you that it is the understanding that 
is key to trading success.A static cycle view of market movement is an attempt 
to model market movement. However , the point I was trying to make is that 
the static cycle model of market movement is flawed and fails to explain 
expanding and contracting cycles, inversions and other real world 
characteristics. Attempts have been made to synthesize a markets movement by a 
composite of dominate cycles and they all fail after a short period of time 
because of the non linear periodicity and sensitivity to new 
impulses.
Understanding the nature of market movement will 
enhance a traders success.
Jim
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  Subject: Re: [RT] cycles
  All time cycles have a tendency to expand and contract and the 
  shorter cycles are impacted by longer cycles.  They are good for a guide 
  in utilizing what ever system you use.  Like anything else you can carry 
  cycles to an extreme as they did in the 70s after Hurst published his findings 
  on cycles.  There are certain things that seem to remain constant and 
  that is that time cycles provide both positive and negative pressure upon 
  price.  That directional changes take place on the 1/2 cycle and that 
  nothing in trading is set in stone.  So it is the understanding of what 
  you are using that is the key to success in trading and not the blind use of 
  some indicator or trading methodology.  Ira. 
  Jim White wrote: 
  Ira, My work, based on chaos theory, models the 
    market as a nonlinear dynamic system  with the dominate cycles 
    being either expanding or contracting periods. Static cycles, such as 
    this , are a linear approach and may work for a while but can invert or 
    change period. Do you have contrary evidence that this 31 hour cycle is 
    reliable over the longer term? Jim <A 
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