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Dear Bob ,

Thanks for the great leads into Time and motion trading. I will check 
into it further and track it.

I apologize for not remembering who posted the question regarding 
KTWO. I hope what I posted is helpful. I usually find that a lot of 
people changes in an organization is a positive sign that some 
preparation is underway.

Sincerely yours,

John

P.S. I feel badly about the people leaving realtraders but I have 
seen much worst days than yesterday so do what you must. People need 
to participate to make something better...even an introduction and 
this is what I know and what I want to learn is something.


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Originally From: "BobR" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading
Date: 04/02/2002 05:18am


There have been systems developed around those time periods.  They are
called the SmartMoney DumbMoney Index systems.  The AM move is 
attributed to
the public and the PM to the pros whoever they are.  The 10AM move, 
usually
a fade, is the end of the first 30 minute bracket used by the market
profilers.  Where the open is with respect to the previous day's 
value area
and the first two 30 minute brackets provide clues to the rest of the
morning and sometimes the day.  John Clayburg has a free Directional 
Day
indicator at his website http://www.clayburg.com  that plots a 
horizontal
line at the average of the high and low of the first five minutes as 
well as
plotting a vertical line at the 60 minute mark after the open.  
Attached is
a chart of this along with two additonal horizontal lines that mark 
the
first hour high and low.  He writes about the use of this indicator 
in his
recently published book "Four Steps to Trading Success".  The amount 
of
trading above and below the horizontal line up to the first hour 
determines
the directional bias, in theory at least for the remainder of the 
day.  I
found it to be a good read and picked up a few useful ideas in the 
book.
Getting back to the 2PM trend, that is quite well known also as 
the "bond"
move.  By then the day's trend in interest rates is pretty well 
established
and the change in rates with respect to the previous day(s) is known 
and the
neural nets start doing their readjustments on intemarket analysis 
which
makes its way into stock movement as the bond trading nears the end 
of its
morning session.  The infusion of new mutual fund money begins to 
have an
effect late in the day also.....strong days often get another boost 
about
then.

bobr

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cappello" <jvc689@xxxxxxx>
To: <Realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:22 AM
Subject: [RT] Time and Motion Trading


> Certain authors have written about the subject. The one I have been
> casually following is an observation that the S&P market starts to
> establish two major moves , one at 10 AM and another at 2 PM.
>
> I have just been observing the 10 AM move by logging in the cash
> value at 10 AM and again at 10:15 AM. In 4 of the five days followed
> the direction up or down movement was sustained to at least until
> 11:15 for what appeared to be a profit.
>
> Has anyone tried to build a system around anything close to this
> concept.?
>
> Ben made a beautiful post on calls with charts and all...no comments
> from the peanut gallery likely because they did not understand it.
>
> P.S Quick response to recent blue sky and green grass people:
>
> The preponderance of sky particles are in the blue wave length and
> not violet. I stand by my explanation previously posted . It is not
> complicated.
>
> The plague was the Bubonic plague spread by rats somewhat like 
vermin
> multiplying on this board as anticipated.
>
> Yes I know I had a typo of mnemonic.
>
> Now if only you could keep a trading post going as long as nonsense
> this forum would be great again.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John
>
>
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