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Hi Bob,
On this mid 60's day with high, floaty, big clouds that are remnants of a light,
warm rain last night, and portends to be a knockout, lovely day, I do not at any
level dismiss the mental side of trading, not in the least. I believe it is of
utmost importance. There should be a group list for discussing it....
Forty watts glowing persistently here,
Dan
Bob Heisler wrote:
> Yes, the bulb certainly has to want to change.
>
> The only point I'm trying to make on this cold, dreary spring morning is
> that to dismiss the mental side of trading as meaningless is as ludicrous as
> dismissing the TA side of trading as meaningless.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "charles meyer" <chmeyer@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Immune Response
>
> > Bob-
> >
> > Thanks for SHARING.<g> How many shrinks does it take to change a light
> > bulb? Only one; but the bulb has to want to change.
> >
> > It was Freud who stated that self-analysis was really not possible. Of
> > course
> > he was the notable exception for it was mostly through his self dream
> > analysis
> > on which the new art and science of psychoanalysis was based. Having said
> > that; I don't think there is any supporting scientific proof on the
> efficacy
> > of any type of analysis; and the more time one spends in this arena; it
> > seems one is
> > able to recognize an analysis du jour. I have also read where the same
> > type of personality change that we envision from a Western perspective can
> > be effected through the daily practice of meditation. Those who have been
> > practicing that for years are said to resemble individuals who have been
> > completely transformed; as through some type of psychological therapy or
> > traditional psychoanalysis. Quicker changes have been effected through
> > what Jung described as a spiritual transformation. That's for those real
> > stubborn folks who make a decision to effect a change in their lives
> through
> > some sort of spirituality; and when almost everything else they have
> tried;
> > failed to make a difference.
> >
> > Chas
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: BobR <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Immune Response
> >
> >
> > > Eventually some traders do get around to examining this area of trading
> > when
> > > they can't seem to get it together after years of trying or perhaps they
> > > just want to polish up one aspect of their already sucessful trading.
> One
> > > trader on this list loaned me a set of audio tapes from a $3,000 psych
> > > seminar. The psych's personal experience and thesis was the mkt was
> > > entirely random and it could change direction immediately after putting
> on
> > a
> > > trade. Must have taken too many hits. Early in the seminar one of the
> > > students asked him if he still traded, and after a pause the answer was
> > no.
> > > At least he was honest. He would rather take $3,000 from ten people in
> a
> > 2
> > > or 3 day session than risk trading. Can't criticise him for that since
> he
> > > found his niche and that is what its about. The seminar continued, but
> I
> > > have yet to get through these tapes and keep falling asleep. Back in
> 1992
> > > when I retired(not from trading) at age 50 I had time to wander a bit
> and
> > > had the good fortune of living with a female psychiatrist for a year.
> > Each
> > > morning I would jump out of bed an hour before the mkt opened and
> prepare
> > > for the day. Then I would go into the next room where the old mac IIfx
> > and
> > > win 3.0 with TrendSetter and MSrt or TS3.0 were and traded for an hour
> and
> > a
> > > half. When she discovered it was possible to make more money in 7.5
> hours
> > > of work than in 30 days of prescibing meds to prison inmates, she
> > concluded
> > > that something was wrong with me! Her goal was to "cure" me whether I
> > > wanted it or not. One morning on a walk past the nearby bird sanctuary
> I
> > > asked her if a psychiatrist could be her own therapist. Of course it
> was
> > a
> > > loaded question as I thought she was loony as hell, and so did most of
> the
> > > neighborhood. Her answer, after a pause, psychs like to pause, was
> "No".
> > > It really was an interesting and unforgettable year of my life.
> > >
> > > bobr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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