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Norman,
As usual you are dead on the money.
Congratulations for being correct and not being afraid to call it like you see
it.
I have routed all of Ric's ramblings to the delete
bin via message rules however reading your response and Ric's original rambling
and raving included in the thread has me rolling on the floor. He is
entertaining but offers absolutely no value whatsoever to the world in
general. I originally attempted to communicate with Ric and he did exactly
what you indicate in your response (refused to listen). Then I realized
that he is not trying to help anyone or accomplish anything constructive.
He is using this forum as a means of entertainment. He rambles on
about nothing to bait people on the forum into responding to him. The
variety of the responses and the ability to generate disputes among list members
is his warped idea of entertainment. My experience has been that if you
ignore people like this they eventually go away because when no one responds to
them the entertainment value of their original intent is lost and their
efforts are no longer rewarding or entertaining. You stand head and
shoulders above him in integrity and in your ability to garner the respect of
others so just ignore him and route his meaningless meanderings to the delete
bin. You have far more value to offer this list than he so please don't
let him bother you.
God Bless and best wishes in all your future
endeavors,Tom
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Norman
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To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:44
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Subject: Re: [RT] Immune Response
Ric,Hypocrisy is preaching to a group about being a
good listener and thenrefusing to listen to what that group says to
you.Cheers,NormanP.S. I don't expect you to pay any
heed to this. I only posted to share theamusing irony of the
moment.----- Original Message -----From: "ric ingram" <<A
href="mailto:ringram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ringram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:
<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:49 PMSubject: [RT] Immune
Response> Hi,>> If a new thread is started on
some obscure aspect of technical analysis,> this is OK, will often be
built upon, and will not get any accusations of> introducing an out of
the blue topic.>> If a new thread on some psychological related
topic is started -> immediately an host of people will rush forward to
reject the foreignbody,> like an immune response.>>
It suggests that what a vocal group of people on this forum like to
speak> about is what they find interesting, comfortable and does not
challenge> them to change.>> It suggests that while most
traders understand that trading is 90%> psychology, there is an
unchallenged rule that we must avoid the most> important issues
involved in trading - so we can collectively and> individually avoid
having to change.>> Sad really. In my dictionary it
is called hypocrisy. You pretend you> are polite and nice
and sincere and provide service, but you will not even> tell your best
friend they have body odour. For you fear attack by your>
friend more than you wish to help your friend. You are selfish
and> hypocritical.>> Hypocrisy shows up, not in reasoned
agreement or disagreement ordiscussion> of the merits and demerits
of the psychological ideas presented but in:>> - avoidance of
the topic,> - rejection of a 'new' topic,> - accusations of 'too
long',> - concentration on problems of style,> - filtering out
the message,> - accept or reject style of reaction,> - reversion
to crowd behaviour,> - feelings of discomfort or confusion,> -
attacking the messenger,> - ...>> If any of these
descriptions partly fit you, in respect of your handlingof> a
psychological thread on this forum, even to a small degree, what are
you> going to do about it?>> Some do take some active
steps and make comments about 'what is the> problem, just delete', but
will not come forward and tell it how it> is. Are they
afraid that they might also be attacked by an immune>
response? I suspect so - and I suspect their perceptions are
correct.>> But then these crowd behaviours are destined to keep
in place the high> failure rate of traders - but never mind, it is more
comfortable to be a> loser, or if a winner to fail to realise your true
potential.>> As an individual, not a member of a crowd, do you
not deserve to give> yourself something better?
I think you are worth it - why don't> you? Act as an
individual, not a member of a crowd.>> Some of the same people
who go straight into reject mode in public, are> more circumspect when
writing to me in private, for deep down they know> they have something
to learn, but cannot admit it in public forum. What>
does that tell you about crowd behaviour? What does it tell
you about> its destructive influence? But of course, you
have no need to change!>> If you are as imperfect as I am, then
boy do you need to change.>> I find change a joy - there is so
much to learn. So many problems and> mistakes and
misconceptions to overcome, so many new ideas to digest and> old
beliefs to discard.>> There is something to learn from everyone
- we are all the same and all> different
simultaneously.>> So many more ways to increase reward to risk
ratios, lower risk of ruin,> recognise opportunities,
....>> But only if you can get past acceptance and rejection
modes of reactingcan> you begin to take personal responsibility - a
characteristic required for> change to be possible.>>
Show that you can change, start a psychological topic yourself - and
laugh> at the immune response. You will learn much,
especially from the private> emails, where reasoned agreement and
disagreement go hand in hand with> challenging
questions.>> And that is what life is about perhaps, learning,
helping others, being> helped. But to be cynical for
sake of stark comparison, there is always> the good feelings of crowd
membership to fall back on!>> May your potential be realised,
Ric.> www.traderscalm.com>>>> To
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