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Dear Don,
I guess Ben was not the only one who has not traded this way. Totally
discretionary traders trade as you suggest. The way that works best
for me after 5 years of working up to full time is MOC, OCO when
desired and MOC when it is rolling in my direction or borderline in
my direction.
My orientation is 80% mechanical and 20% discretionary. I lost and
made a ton mechanically. I lost even more depending upon some money
managers making discretionary changes. I will adjust to market
conditions as I see them.
ALL of my back testing show " no stop" and " no profit target" to be
best in all out war daytrading. But hey that's just me.
And my apologies to Ben for me thinking that I write with such
clarity that the set-up presented did mention these factors
[MOC/OCO/trailing stop].
Sincerely,
John
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Originally From: Don Thompson <detomps@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RT] S&P Day Trading
Date: 03/20/2002 02:35pm
John,
Your first catostrophic stop loss is $3000 or 12 S&P Points? Whew..
that
takes alot of balls to trade that level of
a stop. My inclination is to get it down to two points or so.. no
more than
that. I can see you might have to make
a system do this kind of stop loss if you aren't looking at the
actual
prices during the day trading it. The
day traders I know who are successful don't have more than a 2 point
stop
loss and when in doubt they get out
at 1 or .50 at best. But they are purely discretionary traders that
work off
of price and pattern.
Don Thompson
----- Original Message -----
From: "profitok" <profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] S&P Day Trading
> hello john
> I can not see how you can make money if your profit objective is
SMALLER
> than your stop loss
> nice day
> Ben
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Cappello" <jvc689@xxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:44 AM
> Subject: [RT] S&P Day Trading
>
>
> >
> > My system has not performed at max this year so far and I am doing
> > adjustments to current market conditions mainly related to
psychology
> > of the market and ranges. I am still trading it at a low contract
> > levels 5% of asset allocation. After debugged will step up.
> >
> > Adjustments being made.........entry and exits not limited to
Level 2
> > and 3 Supports and Resistance.
> >
> > Widen trading ranges..............expected today [1179 to 1183]
sell
> > points [1165 to 1169] buy points. No trade if total range beyond
> > 1183 to 1165 at open.
> >
> > My personal stops are $3000 ; min profit target $2000 ; trailing
stop
> > once $1500 profit reached is $750 ; MOC or OCO if tweaked.
> >
> > John
> >
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