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Re: [RT] Managing covered call risk



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Hi Steve,
 
You are right about naked puts being the same as 
covered calls except in two regards.  In most (all?) IRA's selling naked 
puts is not permitted.  Secondly for small accounts with limited margin or 
accounts not approved for margin selling naked puts or calls is not 
permitted.
 
In these cases, IMHO, selling covered calls is much 
better than buying puts or calls.
 
Good luck and good trading,
 
Ray Raffurty
 
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  risk
  Steve,two things. Suppose you own GE stock and want 
  to stay with it for the restof your life, or at least for the long term, 
  then selling covered GE callsmakes sense. Then these short calls will give 
  you additional income on stockyou want to keep anyway.Otherwise, 
  it is not be advisable to use this strategy which will only makeyour 
  broker happy. It is madness to purchase stock just for the purpose 
  ofselling calls against it, because you can get the very same 
  risk/rewardposition by simply selling naked puts only.The 
  unsuspecting public does not understand this. Even older option traderswho 
  learned their trade when there were no puts in existence, don'tunderstand 
  this sometimes. They willingly fork over capital and additionalcommissions 
  because there is an abiding misunderstanding that covered callsare 
  supposedly better protected than naked puts. Well, they aren't. The riskis 
  the same, because if the stock in the covered calls positions goes 
  south,it loses point for point as much as the naked put 
  does.Second, as to your question about managing that risk, this 
  depends on yourpain threshold. IMO, you should place stops in both 
  cases.If you sold naked puts, place a (mental or conditional) buy stop 
  on theputs.If you are in a CC position, place a sell stop on the stock 
  and aconditional buy stop on the calls.Don't think you can really 
  protect your capital by selling more calls. Manypeople have found out 
  about this the painful way, not only in 1987 and 1989,but also last 
  year.Regards,Michael Suesserott> 
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  [mailto:schnake1@xxxxxxxxxxxx]> Gesendet: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 
  20:30> An: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Betreff: [RT] Managing 
  covered call risk>>> Some of you were talking about 
  covered calls awhile back. How do most> of you handle downside risk in 
  the stock price? You own 100 shares of> XYZ at $30. Say you sell a 32 
  strike a month out for $3. The stock> stays the same or goes up. You 
  keep the premium because of> deterioration or because it gets called. 
  If it goes down to $27> your'e even, in theory, although call retains 
  some value til exp. Of> course if it tanks, you lose. What do some of 
  you do to manage the> trade? Sell a lower strike call? Have a GTC 
  stop-sell on the stock,> then buy to close? Any other 
  methodology?> Opinions and ideas, Please and thanks.>> 
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