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Re: [RT] Managing covered call risk



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Mike,
If you sold naked puts, and were interested in 
owning the underlying stock, would you still use a stop order to buy back the 
puts?
Thanks,
Chris
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  Steve,two things. Suppose you own GE stock and want to 
  stay with it for the restof your life, or at least for the long term, then 
  selling covered GE callsmakes sense. Then these short calls will give you 
  additional income on stockyou want to keep anyway.Otherwise, it is 
  not be advisable to use this strategy which will only makeyour broker 
  happy. It is madness to purchase stock just for the purpose ofselling 
  calls against it, because you can get the very same risk/rewardposition by 
  simply selling naked puts only.The unsuspecting public does not 
  understand this. Even older option traderswho learned their trade when 
  there were no puts in existence, don'tunderstand this sometimes. They 
  willingly fork over capital and additionalcommissions because there is an 
  abiding misunderstanding that covered callsare supposedly better protected 
  than naked puts. Well, they aren't. The riskis the same, because if the 
  stock in the covered calls positions goes south,it loses point for point 
  as much as the naked put does.Second, as to your question about 
  managing that risk, this depends on yourpain threshold. IMO, you should 
  place stops in both cases.If you sold naked puts, place a (mental or 
  conditional) buy stop on theputs.If you are in a CC position, place a 
  sell stop on the stock and aconditional buy stop on the 
  calls.Don't think you can really protect your capital by selling more 
  calls. Manypeople have found out about this the painful way, not only in 
  1987 and 1989,but also last year.Regards,Michael 
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  Betreff: [RT] Managing covered call risk>>> Some of you 
  were talking about covered calls awhile back. How do most> of you 
  handle downside risk in the stock price? You own 100 shares of> XYZ at 
  $30. Say you sell a 32 strike a month out for $3. The stock> stays the 
  same or goes up. You keep the premium because of> deterioration or 
  because it gets called. If it goes down to $27> your'e even, in theory, 
  although call retains some value til exp. Of> course if it tanks, you 
  lose. What do some of you do to manage the> trade? Sell a lower strike 
  call? Have a GTC stop-sell on the stock,> then buy to close? Any other 
  methodology?> Opinions and ideas, Please and thanks.>> 
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