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  Dan 
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  Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 6:45 
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  Subject: Re: [RT] While Emotions and 
  Before Emotions
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  ric ingram wrote: 
   Hi, 
    'While Emotions' --------------------- 
    Recently a trader stated: 
    "Emotions must be eliminated by the trader while 
    trading. 
    We our capable of certain control of our emotions. We must 
    always exercise that control when within our grasp, failure to do so and 
    leaving it up to luck, is an abrogation of our responsibilities to our 
    interests." 
    I agree - especially about the while trading.    It is a 
    matter of being dispassionate while still having emotions in the background. 

    Emotions are good - they are telling us our current path is not 
    consistent with our objective(s) and or constraints. 
    Emotions are invoked based on ancient wisdom, some of which is valid in 
    todays circumstances, some which is not.    Much of this 
    wisdom is not available to us using only our cortex. 
    So emotions are very useful - never try to suppress them. 
    Emotions can probably not be suppressed - but they can be accepted and 
    honoured. 
    Accept emotions for what they are - a powerful tool, and a poor master. 
    It is perhaps a way of being, not being a way. 
    So what can we do practically do to start to trade without emotional 
    interference. 
    If we suffer from emotions while trading, we have an opportunity - our 
    trading actions are not aligned with our trading or overall objectives and 
    constraints - the problem is ours and the internal feedback message of 
    emotions can be exploited instead of being ignored. 
    We can accept the message and honour it, rather than accept the state of 
    being emotional as something to be suffered on an ongoing basis. 
    The emotional message can be exploited to get our actions in line with 
    our objectives and constraints.    Maybe both our actions and 
    our objectives/constraints need modifying. 
    When we have done this the emotions will subside - for there is no need 
    for their invocation. 
    To repeat, emotions while trading are a clear and useful warning - ignore 
    them at your own cost of failed objectives and emotional suffering. 
    Now you know why most traders lose or suffer for their meagre profits - 
    we are ignoring our own wisdom. 
    'Before Emotions' ---------------------- 
    But it is not just while trading that emotions can be 
    problematic.   Paradoxically it is the honouring of now 
    inappropriate emotions that can cause problems. 
    Here is where, perhaps, the bad reputation of emotions is derived. 
    Another trader wrote: 
    "Unless you hold for a really long time, in the US market you would have 
    been killed recently if you accumulated as the NASDAQ went nearly 
    straight down. If you traded during the internet bubble you would have 
    been killed as you sold into rally after rally. Again if you hold 
    your positions for years I can see how you would have profited - but 
    otherwise your strategy sounds a little dangerous." 
    Notice the emotive word "killed" was used twice. 
    Fear stops us from experiencing - that is its job and it does it well. 
    When meeting the proverbial sabre-tooth tiger, our ancestors were fearful 
    of being killed - and this gave survival value. 
    So just the thought of the sabre-tooth tiger still might make us fearful 
    of being killed, and so stops us from actively looking for the sabre-tooth 
    tiger! 
    So fear in the context of trading is designed to stop us from ever even 
    paper trading a new trading idea if it invokes fear. 
    Even the possibility of trading in a penny a point (rather than say $10 a 
    point on the DOW or say $50 a point on the S & P) can be ignored, 
    because fear can stop us thinking before trading. 
    We often invoke bluster as a self-defence from having to face our fear. 
    We often reject the possibility of learning through trying, as fear stops 
    us experiencing.   So we can never learn if the fear was justified 
    or not. 
    So our fear stops us from ever finding out there is little or nothing to 
    fear. 
    So what appears very frightening may be frightening or safe.   
    This is the key lesson for traders.   The opposite of what appears 
    to be, can be true. 
    So fear in a strange way generates a kind of arrogance - the strength of 
    feeling can fool us that we are obviously right without the experience to 
    support the opinion. 
    We sometimes refuse to admit, or even conceive, that others may have got 
    past their fear and by so doing have experience we do not have - experience 
    which our fear stops us experiencing. 
    Experience that possibly gives them knowledge and understanding that we 
    have been self-limiting ourselves from. 
    So we perceive those who are not fearful and have such experience, not as 
    being without such fear, but as: 
    -being arrogant about doing the 
    'impossible', -talking 'through their 
    hat', -supporting our fear based need to 
    reject, 
    of if not perceived as telling non-truths, 
    -being boastful, 
    -having the temerity to point out, by 
    comparison our fears and limitations. 
    While all the time it is us, the fearful, who are arrogant - the mirror 
    as usual. 
    Now you know why most traders fail to make significant and regular 
    profits - we self-limit ourselves from  ideas that invoke our fear. 
    So a practical step is use our fear as a reason to try, in a low risk 
    way, that which our fear tells us not to do. 
    Summary ------------- 
    So in conclusion, as traders, we have a delicate balancing act: 
    -accept and honour 'while emotions' and 
    change our trading style, system,trading size, 
    other parameters until the emotions subside, 
    -recognise fear as a powerful reason to 
    actively try (not suppress), in a safeway 
    (such as paper trading or penny a point trading) that which fear tells 
    usto avoid. 
    Now it becomes reasonable that so few traders are big regular winners - 
    for this is a balance most of us have not begun to recognise, let alone 
    achieve. 
    May your potential be realised, Ric. <A 
    href="http://www.traderscalm.com/"; eudora="autourl">www.traderscalm.com 
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