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Re: [RT] E Mini Vs big contract?????



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But back to my original question.....and I am aware 
that maybe I want this to work to much.....what If you traded the mini based on 
buys and sells generated by the index charts? Wont the prices always be about 
the same? If I use a 3 point stop.....that should more than enough 
to cancel out any noise.....I have never seen a difference of more than a 
point. I plan to paper trade this on a simulated account first. But thanks for 
the help. Logically....to me anyway....it seems that that should 
work.
 
Sean
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  Subject: Re: [RT] E Mini Vs big 
  contract?????
  
  Right, it might not work.  A high to high 
  and low to low comparison would have to agree and on almost every bar they 
  don't agree.  The actual execution prices will be different if 
  they occur at all.  Create two charts side by side, one with ES, one with 
  SP, apply the system to both, and see where the signals occur.  There 
  will be percentage differences in the entries and exits between the 
  two.
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    Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:08 
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    Subject: Re: [RT] E Mini Vs big 
    contract?????
    
    Just so I am perfectly clear.....you think that 
    my system that works so well on the S&P, although it is not designed for 
    it, would not work on the E Mini? The system is very simple, it buys above 
    the high of the first bar at the 3rd bar? Or sells below of the the first 
    bar at the 3rd bar.
     
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      Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 
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      Subject: Re: [RT] E Mini Vs big 
      contract?????
      
      It is a reality.  Take an intraday ES 
      candlestick chart and overlay an OHLC chart of the SP.  Then create a 
      custom indicator of High of data1 - high of data2 and Low of Data1 - Low 
      of Data2.  These differences are the reason for different trendlines, 
      trigger level differences, pivots as well as moving average 
      differences when the H and L are involved in calculations by themselves or 
      the Close.  The extra noise in the ES obliterates the performance of 
      systems designed for the SP data.
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        Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 
        10:51 AM
        Subject: RE: [RT] E Mini Vs big 
        contract?????
        
        Sean - 
        this is troublesome and bothering.....
        are you 
        using TS4, TS2000i or TS/Pro ?
        Tick bars 
        / 5 minute / 15 minute bars ?
        Which 
        data feed ?
        Lots of 
        variables to consider, but the differences between the 2 symbols should 
        not be that drastic.....
         
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          2002 4:44 PMTo: 
          realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [RT] E Mini Vs big 
          contract?????
          
          I have been using a tradestation system that works 
          very well on the S&P and Nasdaq Indices. but when I try to use the 
          same system on the mini s&p and the mini nasdaq......the results 
          are completely different. What can i do to get these results in line? 
          I realize the numbers are slightly differenet between the mini and the 
          index, but the results should be almost identical.
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