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Re: [RT] Masters of the Difficult or Students of the Easy



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I may be wrong but what Ric maybe is 
"selling" is one should spread trade?
 
I have known several that have been successful 
that do just that, thus the calm, collect the premium and relax (but then there 
is the PS below).
 
I think I met the test, one line can I go 
fishing?
don ewers
 
PS- I should also add, spreads can go horribly 
wrong too, not a personal experience but saw others "pay their dues" in that 
regard. No "calm" there I might add.
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  Ray 
  Raffurty 
  To: <A 
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  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Masters of the 
  Difficult or Students of the Easy
  
  Hi Ric.
   
  In the movie "A River Runs Thru It" the lead 
  character, as a child, was required by his father to write an essay each day 
  as part of his home schooling. He explained that since his father was a 
  Presbyterian minister and Scottish to boot, frugality of words was 
  mandatory.  Each time he would turn in the essay his father would edit it 
  and require him to rewrite it again half as long.
   
  This would go on several times for each essay 
  until he had gotten it down to a few dozen words expressing the core 
  idea.  His father would then approve it and he could go of 
  fishing.
   
  You need to try this.  Therefore you're not 
  excused until you rewrite this again, half as long.
   
  Good luck and good trading,
   
  Ray Raffurty
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    <DIV 
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    ric 
    ingram 
    To: <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:39 
    PM
    Subject: [RT] Masters of the Difficult 
    or Students of the Easy
    Hi,This is a long 
    email.    For those who like to 'read' pictures I suggest the 
    delete key.As a trader are you trying to be a master of the 
    difficult or are your hoping to become a student of the easy?As your 
    still with me, this email 
    gives:        -       a 
    possible explanation of why most (it is said 95%) traders lose 
    money,        -       a 
    practical example of one of three trading styles that seem to account for 
                the 
    majority of the successful traders.The approach taken is to suggest 
    it is perhaps easier to make money as a not too effective trader, trading an 
    inherently highly profitable approach, than to try to learn to be a highly 
    tuned money-making-machine using a hard to win at style of trading.I 
    repeat, as a trader are you trying to be a master of the difficult or are 
    your hoping to become a student of the easy?Traders who regularly 
    make money trading with the trend are rightly applauded.For it is a 
    difficult task to master, and that is why such traders are so are few in 
    number and rarely make more than 50% per annum every year.  
    Even a consistent 20% plus a year is impressive for such trading, 
    and an investment manager that can make a regular 20% plus a year with 
    limited draw-downs and is willing and able (psychologically) to manage other 
    peoples money will have many ready takers.      And 
    deservedly so, for such managers are masters of the difficult and deserve 
    every penny they make.Some manage a trend following trading style 
    without much stress and good luck to them.   There are techniques 
    that can catapult them to lower stress, more regular and higher profits - 
    for example risk of ruin considerations and position sizing and service 
    concepts.The fact that most trading material that is written assumes 
    that trading with the trend is the only way to trade is to be expected 
    as:        -       it 
    is 
    simple,        -       it 
    meets instant gratification 
    needs,        -       it 
    is what the majority of new traders want to 
    hear,        -       it 
    is assumed to be the only way to 
    go,        -       many 
    of 'fundamental' based players are natural trend 
    followers,        -       a 
    majority of 'technical' based techniques are trend followers 
    tools,        -       most 
    like to be a member of the 
    crowd,        -       most 
    spend their lives seeking rather than offering service.So most new 
    traders try to trade this way, hoping to emulate the masters of the 
    difficult, but then most traders lose and drop out.    But 
    still the 'penny does not drop' - and for some, because of human nature, 
    perhaps never will, at least in this life.Most successful traders, 
    and certainly an overwhelming majority of those that regularly make 50% or 
    more per annum seem to mostly use one of three trading techniques or 
    variants or combinations of 
    :        -       spread 
    trading 
    strategies,        -       volatility 
    breakout 
    techniques,        -       market 
    making techniques.This is because these trading styles/techniques 
    tend to have lower stress and are inherently more profitable - so a mere 
    student of the easy can often exceed the success of the masters of the 
    difficult.We will look at the spread trading concept - as it is 
    simple to describe and to give  some examples.Some of the 
    biggest traders by capital employed are spreaders.   Arbitrage of 
    index futures against the underlying cash instruments is a example of 
    spreading.   Let us look first at these traders.Let us 
    assume the fair premium of the S & P 500 future (based on interest 
    rates, margin requirements, dividend distributions, time to expiry) is 4 
    points for 2 months to go to expiry.Imagine that the index future 
    stands at 6 points above the cash stocks.   An index arbitrageur 
    will buy the cash stock (probably via an ongoing arrangement with a pension 
    fund) and sell the futures to an equivalent value.He/she will then 
    pick up the two points discrepancy to fair value by holding the cash and 
    futures to expiry of the futures and sell the cash stock back to the 
    original owner at the going rate.He/she will pick up a net, near 
    risk-less, 2 points in 2 months less annual fees to the stock lender for his 
    trouble.Only 2 points you say, in 2 months - not a good 
    return.    But often the profit is on money borrowed for the 
    purpose, and that 2 points in say 1,000 is worth having - on say, 
    $500,000,000 of stock, as it amounts to a million bucks.Yes, this is 
    not an untypical trade size for arbitrageur of this kind.Also, in 
    practice the premium often varies from 2 points above fair value to 2 points 
    below fair value and back again many times in two months.   Often 
    the swings available are much higher than those in the example.So 
    our hero/heroine takes his/her four points (or more) often many times in the 
    2 month period.So now you know why the big guys get bigger - they 
    take nearly risk-less profits over and over again on their own and/or other 
    peoples money.They get paid well because they provide a range of 
    services:        -       they 
    are low risk borrowers for the banks and pay interest on big 
                  chunks 
    of money to the 
    lenders,        -       they 
    help keep the futures premium within reasonable bounds so more 
                near 
    a fair premium is paid by future 
    traders,        -       they 
    provide a large supply of future contracts when everyone is bidding 
                   up 
    the price of the future compared to the cash index - that is when the 
                    premium 
    is 
    high,        -       they 
    provide a large demand for future contracts when everyone is 
                  selling 
    the future compared to the cash index - that is when the 
                    premium 
    is 
    low,        -       they 
    help keep the market makers books more balanced and requiring 
                 less 
    cash for their 
    activities,        -       they 
    permit big buy and hold institutions such as insurance companies 
              and 
    pension funds to earn extra stock lending fees to add to 
    dividends,        -       ...But 
    let us look at a more practical spread available to those only with pennies 
    a point (not $50,000 a point) to risk and available more than once most 
    weeks.Imagine you have an account with an internet trader that 
    allows you to trade in 1 cent units on the S & P 500 and the 
    DOW.   Real time prices, updated every 20 seconds or better is 
    provided free - so your costs are limited to your internet charges.  
    This is all a reality now.You have analysed the relationship between 
    the movements on the DOW and the movements on the S & P 500.   
    You believe they move in a ratio of 7 to 1, 8 to 1 ... 12 to 1 - each 
    traders perception is different.   Whatever works for 
    you.This morning they move out of line (according to your ratio) by 
    25 (or 50 or 100 or other parameter) DOW points.   You buy the 
    cheap one, you sell the expensive one.Your studies tell you that 
    such a discrepancy unwinds within the hour/day/week/month  30%, 40%, 
    ... 90% of the time - every traders time horizon and perception is 
    different.When it unwinds or reverses (another alternative view) you 
    take your profit.    If the divergence gets bigger you take 
    your loss or increase your position - another alternative.You find 
    perhaps you can take the equivalent of 2 full S & P 500 points every day 
    out of the market net of losses.An example based, for simplicity on 
    25 points discrepancy and assuming a 10 to 1 ratio will perhaps 
    help.I am sure your research will verify that 10 to 1 is not 
    appropriate, but it makes the arithmetic easier.The S & P 500 
    today is say at 1000.0 at open and the DOW is at 10,000 at open.By 
    10:03 a.m. the DOW has risen to 10050 and the S & P 500 has risen to 
    1001.5.They have not moved in line and you feel the discrepancy is 
    sufficient, based on your research, to try and exploit.You buy 10 
    cents a point of the S & P 500 at 1002.0 (including all dealing costs), 
    and you sell 1 cent a point of the DOW at 10046 (including all dealing 
    costs).Your spread is much lower risk than just buying 10 cents a 
    point on the S & P 500 or just selling 1 cent a point of the DOW as you 
    have a spread and they tend to move together.The margin for this 
    trade will be less than $10 (that is right ten dollars).Your margin 
    is higher - you pay margin on both sides - helping to stop you 
    overtrading.Your research is good and most of the time (your 
    percentage from your research) the two markets come back in line by the end 
    of the hour/day ... and you unwind at 1019.5 and 10198 including all 
    costs with the 
    results:        profit 
    $0.10 x (1019.5 -1002.0) = 
    $1.75        loss   
    $0.01 x (10198 - 10046) = $1.52Net profit $0.23.   Not bad 
    on a low risk trade in a hour or so and on a standard margin of say $10 
    excluding running profits or losses.Assume you have an account of 
    $1,000 and so you are only trading (in terms of the $10 margin) about 1% of 
    your account size.Sometimes, based on your research - you take a 
    loss.    Let us assume that $0.03 average allowance for 
    losses must be made for each profitable event.You have made $0.20 
    profit, (net of allowance for losses) on $1,000.Assume this is 
    available just once each and every day and you trade 200 days a 
    year.Your yearly net profit is $40 or 4% per annum.Let us 
    assume that you can continue this profit profile over several months, 
    building confidence slowly to be able to trade 20 cents against 2 cents 
    (assuming the mythical 10 to 1 ratio).You are now making 8% per 
    annum.    You take the time to back-test by hand (by hand for 
    optimum confidence) using the free data supplied by your internet dealer 
    over 30 years of data to include a very big up day and a very big down day. 
    Your confidence grows.   You go, small step by small step 
    to trading $1 on the S & P against 10 cents on the DOW (assuming you 
    still feel 10 to 1 is the appropriate ratio) - 10 times your original risk 
    level - your daily standard margin (excluding running losses or profits) is 
    now about $100 - well within the original $1,000 account - leaving lots of 
    room for any sudden dramatic doubling or trebling or even quadrupling of 
    margin.   You are not going to be in the class of losers that get 
    closed at a loss out because you run out of margin.You are now 
    making a net $2 a day - $400 a year and 40% per annum profit ignoring 
    compounding.   And low risk and stress-free too.   You 
    are a student of the easy, not a master of the difficult.As often as 
    your research tells you, you count your profit and assess against five 
    criteria:        -       profit 
    percentage per unit time after allowing for occasional 
    losses,        -       net 
    reward per unit 
    risk,        -       net 
    reward per unit 
    margin,        -       the 
    stress 
    level,        -       actual 
    market behaviour against theoretical behaviour.You find the first is 
    good, the second outstanding, the third poor, the fourth lower than you have 
    ever known, the fifth to build your confidence, give you early warning of 
    changes in spread relationships, and data to refine your risk of ruin 
    calculations.Why predict and invoke your ego?Why emote away 
    and suffer for it?Why not provide service in this 
    case:        -       by 
    buying that index most 
    oversold,        -       by 
    selling that index most overbought,so you do not self-sabotage as 
    you know you have provided service and profit is your due 
    reward.    You get to keep your profit.Good thinking 
    leads to stress-free enjoyable and profitable trading.And a life 
    outside of trading - and the money and stress-free existence to enjoy it to 
    the full.Effortless and simple.    Much better to be 
    a student of the easy than to try to be a master of the 
    difficult.Unconditional regards, Ric.<A 
    href="http://www.traderscalm.com/"; eudora="autourl">www.traderscalm.com 
    P.S.There are many pairs of markets to spread, each with 
    their own opportunities and risk profiles.Sometimes you can spread 
    the same pair of markets for a profit several times in the same 
    day.The possibilities are as large as your imagination. 
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