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Debka is mainly BS with a lot of imagination thrown in.  Here is a 
detailed post from someone else on the Prudent Bear forum.  I 
basically agree with the post but remember, I AM JUST THE MESSENGER 
here:

http://www.prudentbear.com/boards/user/non-frames/message.asp?
forumid=4&messageid=77443&threadid=77413

SUBJECT: Propaganda machine. 
AUTHOR: Teddy Bear  
DATE: 10/8/01 7:23:34 PM 

DEBKA files is the propaganda tool of choice for Masada2000, the New 
Koch movement, and other zionist hate groups. 

The website is registered to 

Shamis communication LTD 
53/3 Bar Cochba 
Jerusalem, Is 97892 
Israel 

and owned by Giora Shamis and Diane Shalem. 

Their M/O is to write highly-detailed reports implicating every 
country or ethnic group the zionists are gunning for in all sorts of 
schemes--both real and imaginary. For example Debka is constantly 
trying to implicate the Palestinians in the Sept. 11th terrorist 
attack, outlandishly claiming that Palestinians helped practice the 
attack. 

The idea is to butter up Americans for an all-out assault on the 
Palestinians and assassination/summary execution of all of their 
leaders. 

They have conspiracies involving rival religious and ethnic groups 
whose countries are not allied to each other. 

The level of detail is enough to fool people who quite frankly WANT 
to believe it anyway. One report for example supposedly detailed the 
spoiled, undisciplined childhood of a Syrian official. 

Most of debka's sources are conveniently anonymous. THINK: Israel has 
the most draconian national security laws in the world; the Mossad 
has been known to conduct secret executions (including of 
Israelis!!!) to protect what they perceive to be security interests. 
And supposedly this site can get away with publishing 
anonymous "leaks" from Israeli security personnel? 

Another example of their far-fetched claims is that Arafat got away 
with being rude and stubborn with Israeli officials begging him to 
accept their offer of 97% of the territories (there was never any 
such offer) because he'd already been given assurances of support 
from "guilt-wrenched Jews" of "the Bilderberg Group"! Why would 
central bankers and globalists take the least bit of interest in the 
pathetic Palestinians?! And if such a meeting ever took place how 
would Debka files find out about it?! Delusions of grandeur... 

Yet another: only a few weeks ago Debka claimed that Iraqi troops had 
invaded Jordan, and that the USA and Israeli military were aware of 
the incursion but covering it up. Um, to what purpose would ANY of 
that be happening? Hello, reality check?! Besides, there are foreign 
news correspondants in Jordan, and the media would have no motive to 
spike stories coming out. 

Jonathan Pollard's supporters, btw, are trying to discredit DEBKA for 
publishing propaganda harmful to his case. Considering the Israeli 
government's behavior after his unusual case--it sure looks like a 
plant to me. 

The typical DEBKA fanatic likes to think of him/herself as an 
intellectual elite who has a secret link into the fun and exciting 
world of international espionage. It also helps boost their bloated 
egos by justifying the prejudicial hatred that they already feel for 
those they consider "the enemies of Israel".


--- In realtraders@xxxx, "Dorothy K. Carter" <dorothy.carter@xxxx> 
wrote:
>  check out   www.debka.com
> 
> In this article it states what I have posted on this thread before 
in ref to
> importing Middle Eastern oil... that   "The Bush admin has set its 
sights
> firimly now on the former Soviet Muslim republics of Kazakhstan, 
Uzbekistan,
> Kyrgistan, Tadjikistan and Azerbaijan in Central Aisa, plus a 
limited degree
> Caucasian Georgia.  Middle East oil resources will have to take a 
back seat
> to the oil wealth of Central Aisa and the developing fields of 
ALASKA and
> the Gulf of Mexico"
> 
>  There's a reason why Putin and  Fox  love Bush so much....  I 
agree with
> Michael Ferguson, of course I would having lived in Alaska for 
27yrs......
> "Let the Oils Shieks eat sand"   :-)   Dorothy
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Ferguson" <wl7bdn@xxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Oil!
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > My note is concerned with the investing/trading implications 
rather than
> > the
> > > political ..
> >
> >
> > O yeah, I forgot the investing/trading implications of my 
scenario, sorry.
> >
> > Short the mideast suppliers.
> > Long the replacement producers.
> >
> >
> >
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