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Hi
those are photo voltage collectors
and yes at night they produce  only  40watts
however,, during peak   production   2400  watts  ,, the extra you store for
night use or sell back to the utility
(this is even  an old system) The NEW ones are MUCH  more efficient
made by Kyosera (not sure of the spelling,, they also make a palm pilot
which  is also a cell phone)
regards
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "BobR" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] should we be contrarian to this report ??


> From star light?  That can't possibly be much more power than to
illuminate
> a night light.  Ben, it sounds like a scam.  Have you seen this system?
Are
> you buying one?
>
> bobr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "profitok" <profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] should we be contrarian to this report ??
>
>
> > Hello
> > Maybe many of you do not know
> > it cost $7500   to install   a solar system  that produce enough
> electricity
> > for the whole house,,(it does it even at night from the star light,,
> > you get 40% rebate from the fed GOV,, and 15% from your state
> > this REALLY will take the bite  out of this oil prices
> > Ben
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "BobR" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] should we be contrarian to this report ??
> >
> >
> > > Nah, I like the idea of cutting the demand for oil through
conservation
> > and
> > > efficiency of design.  A $1 drop in price per barrel saves $7,billion.
> > That
> > > is a powerful weapon.  It took a $4 drop to get the Saudi's to join
the
> > > aniti OBL/Taliban coalition.   The dollar still rules.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:36 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] should we be contrarian to this report ??
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ok people, let's get out there and spend spend spend! If we consume
> > > enough,
> > > > we can beat bin Ladin and those terrorists. Do your patriotic part
and
> > > > spend, spend, spend!  Now get those credit cards out and
> > > > Chaaaarrrrrrrrge!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Conspicoius Consumingly,
> > > >
> > > > Norman
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <SLAWEKP@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <REALTRADERS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:30 AM
> > > > Subject: [RT] should we be contrarian to this report ??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 09/25 00:01
> > > > > Bloomberg Consumer Confidence Index Rose After Sept. 11 Attacks
> > > > > By Brendan Murray
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Washington, Sept. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Consumer confidence in the
> economy
> > > > rose
> > > > > this month to the highest level since January, according to a
> > Bloomberg
> > > > News
> > > > > poll taken after the worst terrorist violence in U.S. history.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bloomberg's confidence index, derived from a series of questions
> about
> > > the
> > > > > economy, rose to 86.68 this month from 83.8 in a June survey, a
> survey
> > > of
> > > > > 1,200 adults found. The increase was the second in a row. The last
> > time
> > > > the
> > > > > index was higher was when it was 89.3 in January.
> > > > >
> > > > > ``The American people are angry, grieving and upset, but they
> haven't
> > > lost
> > > > > faith in the economy,'' said Evans Witt, president of Princeton
> Survey
> > > > > Research Associates, which conducted the poll last week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Americans expect stocks will rise and a majority predicted their
> > > personal
> > > > > finances will stay the same or improve in the next year, the
survey
> > > found.
> > > > A
> > > > > jump in President George W. Bush's approval rating to 83 percent
> from
> > 55
> > > > > percent last month shows that Americans favor his handling of the
> > > crisis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still, 70 percent think there will be more terrorist assaults
within
> a
> > > > year,
> > > > > and a third think those that occurred Sept. 11 will very likely do
> > > serious
> > > > > harm to the economy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Half of the respondents said it's a good time to buy stocks,
> according
> > > to
> > > > the
> > > > > survey, taken the same week the Dow Jones Industrial Average
> suffered
> > > its
> > > > > steepest decline in almost 70 years. Forty-five percent had given
> that
> > > > > response in June, and 40 percent in April.
> > > > >
> > > > > With eight cuts in interest rates by Federal Reserve policy makers
> > this
> > > > year,
> > > > > almost two-thirds of the respondents said it's a good time to buy
a
> > > house.
> > > > >
> > > > > `Still Confident'
> > > > >
> > > > > ``I'm spending just as much as I did two weeks ago,'' said Lila
> > > > Stangeland,
> > > > > 34, mother of two in South Brunswick, New Jersey. She and her
> husband,
> > > > Glen
> > > > > Marchese, 35, recently bought a house, and they plan to spend
about
> > > > $12,000
> > > > > to $15,000 on furnishings and landscaping during the next few
> months.
> > > ``So
> > > > > far we are still confident that we'll get a paycheck and spend
like
> we
> > > > do.''
> > > > >
> > > > > Stangeland gave another reason for carrying on after the attacks.
> > > > ``Stopping
> > > > > our lives is just going to hurt the economy,'' she said.
> > > > >
> > > > > The poll, which was taken in telephone interviews from Sept. 18 to
> > Sept.
> > > > 23,
> > > > > has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. The
> survey
> > > is
> > > > > taken every six weeks, and the confidence index is computed
> quarterly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Residents of New York were excluded from this survey, since people
> in
> > > > > disaster areas typically don't respond. The survey was intended to
> > take
> > > a
> > > > > national rather than regional approach.
> > > > >
> > > > > The attacks two weeks ago, which left more than 6,000 men, women
and
> > > > children
> > > > > missing and presumed dead, have raised concern among economists
that
> > the
> > > > U.S.
> > > > > economy, already weakening, would slide into its first recession
in
> a
> > > > decade.
> > > > >
> > > > > `You Can't Panic'
> > > > >
> > > > > Even so, consumers have become more optimistic about their
> portfolios.
> > > > > Fifty-five percent of those polled said they expect the Dow will
be
> > > higher
> > > > a
> > > > > year from now, up from 35 percent in the June survey, according to
> the
> > > > poll.
> > > > >
> > > > > ``It's frightening when you see your net worth drop,'' said Sara
> > Baxter,
> > > > 37,
> > > > > shopping Friday at a Target Corp. store in Colma, California.
Still,
> > > ``You
> > > > > can't panic.''
> > > > >
> > > > > She and her husband run a business doing pre-employment background
> > > checks
> > > > > ``which is going to be even hotter now.''
> > > > >
> > > > > Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan told Congress last week that
``economic
> > > > activity
> > > > > ground to a halt'' in the week after hijackers crashed planes into
> the
> > > > World
> > > > > Trade Center towers in New York and the Pentagon near Washington.
He
> > > said
> > > > the
> > > > > outlook remains strong for growth in the longer term.
> > > > >
> > > > > The poll showed the attacks widened the gulf between those who
said
> > the
> > > > > economy is set to improve and those who said it will worsen.
> > > Thirty-eight
> > > > > percent expect the economy will get better in the next 12 months,
> > > compared
> > > > > with 35 percent in an August survey. Thirty-two percent of the
> > > respondents
> > > > > expect the economy will deteriorate in the next year, up from 20
> > percent
> > > > in
> > > > > August, the poll found.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personal Finances
> > > > >
> > > > > When asked about the outlook for their own personal finances, 88
> > percent
> > > > of
> > > > > the respondents expect no change or an improvement during the next
> > year,
> > > > down
> > > > > from 93 percent in the June survey, the poll found.
> > > > >
> > > > > While three-quarters of the respondents said they haven't bought
> extra
> > > > > groceries or household supplies since the attacks, only 10 percent
> > said
> > > > they
> > > > > canceled travel plans and 5 percent said they delayed a major
> > purchase,
> > > > the
> > > > > poll found. Almost two-thirds said they've given money to charity.
> > > > >
> > > > > The poll reflected the impact on U.S. airlines. Forty-three
percent
> > said
> > > > they
> > > > > are more afraid to fly in an airplane, while 50 percent reported
no
> > > > > difference in their confidence in air travel, the poll showed.
Only
> > 19%
> > > > said
> > > > > they feel very safe flying in a commercial jetliner.
> > > > >
> > > > > No Change in Plans
> > > > >
> > > > > Baxter, shopping in California, said she and her husband are
> traveling
> > > > next
> > > > > week to Montana by plane. ``Sure I'd be nervous, but I don't think
> I'd
> > > > change
> > > > > my plans,'' she said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Consumers may be containing their level of pessimism until they
see
> > how
> > > > the
> > > > > U.S. responds to the attacks or whether terrorist groups strike
> again,
> > > > Witt
> > > > > said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eighty-nine percent of U.S. adults say they like the way Bush is
> > > > responding
> > > > > to the assaults, and 78 percent support military attacks against
> those
> > > > > responsible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fifty-five percent said the Social Security surplus shouldn't be
> spent
> > > on
> > > > the
> > > > > war effort, and 35 percent said it should.
> > > > >
> > > > > The survey results showed men and women differed in their degree
of
> > > > > confidence in the country's future. Thirty-eight percent of women
> > expect
> > > > the
> > > > > economy will worsen in the next year, compared with 26 percent of
> men.
> > > > Almost
> > > > > half of men -- 46 percent -- expect economic growth will
accelerate,
> > > > compared
> > > > > with 30 percent of women, the poll found.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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