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Re: [RT] MarketProfile??--attn BobR



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I am still pretty much a novice with the MP trading 
and can only offer an equivalent answer.  Here are some thoughts on 
it.  First the distinction between the TS Activity Bars and the real Market 
Profile is a significant one.  That isn't to say one is better than the 
other and each may have tradeable value.  The TS Activity Bar "value area 
box" is based on a standard deviation of the cells which are based on tick 
counts and the box is centered on the longest row of cells.  The Market 
Profile Value area is based on a percentage of volume and is not centered on the 
longest row of cells except in rare occurrances.  So the value area 
boundaries for the two indicators will be different.  This distinction is 
important when carrying the boundaries forward from one day to the next and also 
because of the sector of traders you might be trading against.
 
That said, the boundary areas do act as support and 
resistance.  Until the first two half hour periods have passed it is a bit 
risky to draw conclusions as to market direction the rest of the day.  For 
many years I puzzled over the "S" curve that is thrown each morning near the 
open.  Having studied a bit of the MP theory it is now clear that there is 
a price facilitation maneuver that seeks out the highest volume area during the 
first hour in which prices are pushed one way for 30 minutes and then the other 
direction for 30 minutes....roughly speaking as the extent and timing vary with 
the bullishness and bearishness of the overnight and opening orders.  
Globex has also skewed this movement in time.
 
Where price opens in relation to the value area is 
significant as you question in your email.  If it opens within the value 
area and doesn't close outside in the first hour, then the day has high odds of 
being a range bound day within the value area and have a symmetrical 
profile.  If it opens above the value area and doesn't move inside for 
longer than a certain time and moves back above, that is a bullish day.  
Likewise for an open below the value area is bearish if price can't move back up 
into the "box".  Many times you will see price open above or below the box 
and then close inside the box for repeated bars(of say 30 minutes or less) and 
then if price sticks inside, then it will make a run for the midpoint, pause and 
then run to the other side of the box.  The boundaries are being used by 
somebodies to trade off of.  I have noticed on occassion that when price 
reverses and it isn't near any of the standard pivots, then it turns out to be 
one of the MP value boundaries. 
 
bobr
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  Subject: [RT] MarketProfile??--attn 
  BobR
  
  Bob, some interpretation help 
  please.
   
  Over the past few days it appears that 
  when the SPX.X opened
  below the major activity area of the 
  prior day that we had
  a down day.
   
  Can you say if this is generally true or 
  just true since we
  have been in a rather sharp short 
  downtrend.
   
  Clyde
   
   
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