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I second that
if we can only find more people like Clyde
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall Kurzon" <rkurzon@xxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] free eod data
> Let's see now- one party wants Clyde to speak nice, another wants him to
> post trades in advance and another wants him to apologize because he was
too
> direct with the truth, and he must feel sorry because she is a single mom
on
> a budget. As far as I remember Clyde has never tried to be a Guru, sought
> out any followers, or claimed to be Billy Graham disguised as a trader.
>
> What he has done is unselfishly posted his honest (no word minced)
opinion,
> lots of charts, lots of code, and even more opinions about upcoming market
> direction. Now you people want to mold him into something that fits what
you
> want- amazing. Anything else you want? A new car, new house? I'm sure you
> won't hesitate to ask. As far as the way he expresses himself, I have
found
> that people who don't mince word are usually the most hones. They say what
> they think and speak plainly. If you want to carry your emotions on your
> shirt sleeve then the trading world is going to keep you crying every day.
>
> Clyde did a big favor by stating plainly some very important facts. Too
bad
> many of you are too busy criticizing him to see that.
>
> As to posting trades, just how many is anyone going to post to make those
> happy that always want to see trades posted in advance? If he posts 3-5
> trades and it is during a drawdown then he's a loser. If he posts 3-5
trades
> during a winning streak then you won't leave him alone until he makes your
> trades for you and you are rich. Looks like a no win situation for Clyde
or
> anyone else posting trades.
>
> I wasted all the time I'm going to on this discussion so don't expect any
> more replies from me.
>
> Have a great Sunday.
>
> Randall
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rakesh Sahgal" <rsahgal@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:51
> Subject: Re: [RT] free eod data
>
>
> > Randall,
> >
> > Asking Clyde to post his trades is digressing from the issue and you are
> > right in pointing out that such a request need not be entertained by
him.
> >
> > Why should he respond so disparagingly to Ketayun's request however is
> > beyond me? A list member seeks guidance, if you can guide the member
fine,
> > if not fine again, where is the need to fly off the handle?
> >
> > If he wanted to advise her that she should seriously consider incurring
> > this expense, to better the quality of her decision making inputs , was
it
> > necessary for him to run down folks who are not incurring the kind of
> > expense he is incurring?
> >
> > Rakesh
> >
> > At 10:19 AM 7/15/01 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Clyde has done more than most to share knowledge, information, and code
> with
> > >others on this list and many more. Anyone who says otherwise is
> completely
> > >wrong. Why should he post his trades in advance? He's given everything
> > >needed to follow his methods and now you want the trades spoon-fed to
you
> > >also?
> > >
> > >He has a right to express his views and there is a lot of truth to what
> he
> > >says. If you can't afford to play the game then best not to play. If
you
> > >want free data you will get exactly what you pay for. If that is what
you
> > >want to base your trading decisions on then save yourself lots of time
> and
> > >give the money to charity.
> > >
> > >Randall
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Daniel Watkins" <watnetd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:34
> > >Subject: Re: [RT] free eod data
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > well done, ketayun. the richest people i know pay the least for
info.
> > > >
> > > > maybe clyde could post some real time swing trades in advance and we
> will
> > > > see how much his wealth of information helps him.
> > > >
> > > > dw/humble 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Ketayun wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Clyde,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am sorry that you feel the need to make disparaging comments
about
> my
> > > > > request for info re: free eod service. Not all of us have had the
> > > > > benefit of being sponsored and supported by a wealthy patron as
you
> have
> > > > > already admitted was your good fortune.
> > > > >
> > > > > Being a single mother, trying to learn a new trade, I do
subscribe
> to
> > > > > as many services as I can afford. It is my understanding that this
> forum
> > > > > is for the purpose of sharing and supporting each other to be more
> > > > > successful in this business. Wonder under which catagory I should
> file
> > > > > your patronising and withering comments?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ketayun
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Clyde Lee wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I really do not understand this constant requestby people for
> "FREE"
> > > > > > data (eod or otherwise). I pay PINNACLE data for EOD data
covering
> > > > > > most ofthe significant commodities worldwide (cost is
> > > > > > veryreasonable). What I get also covers most importantindices.
I
> pay
> > > > > > WORDEN Brothers (tc2000) for daily stock dataand a wide variety
of
> > > > > > index data and it is reasonable(something less than $30/month) I
> pay
> > > > > > Quote.com for realtime and historical data andunfortunately this
> is a
> > > > > > bit more expensive ($80/mo). I also pay TradestationPro for
> realtime
> > > > > > and historicaldata while I make up my mind about QC or TSPro as
> away
> > > > > > to go (about $100/mo). If you can't afford to pay for the work
> that
> > > > > > peopledo to acquire and distribute data then for goodnesssake be
> > > > > > satisfied with whatever you can get fromYAHOO. I really do get
> upset
> > > > > > when people are not willing topay for the very basic elements of
> > > > > > system tradingwhich is DATA ! ! ! ! ! !
> Clyde - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > > > Clyde Lee Chairman/CEO (Home of SwingMachine)
> > > > > > SYTECH Corporation email: clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > 7910 Westglen, Suite 105 Office: (713) 783-9540
> > > > > > Houston, TX 77063 Fax: (713) 783-1092
> > > > > > Details at: www.theswingmachine.com
> > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: ketayun
> > > > > > To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 19:05
> > > > > > Subject: [RT] free eod data
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would anyone please be able to suggest a site that provides
> > > > > > free EOD's
> > > > > > including historical?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, does metastock rt work with Qcharts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for any help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ketayun
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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