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Re: [RT] OEX Upswing



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Hi Kent,

Thirty is all you need for pivot point analysis as long as you make use of
the proprietary triple validation or quadruple validation procedures I
employ.  That's a big problem where modelers tend to make mistakes with
neural net construction, they usually don't attempt to validate their models
and/or they optimize inputs and/or outputs.  I do neither.  And no, the
types of models on my website employ several years of training data because
that is what is required for the types of models I build.  Based on the
validation measures I use, most models on my site will likely not have to be
retrained in my lifetime.  Keep up the good work.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Rollins" <kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] OEX Upswing


> 30?  You seriously considering neural net signals on a net that was
trained
> on 30 data points?  You need 100 times that number and if the net has a
lot
> of hidden nodes, you need more than that.  What is the format of the net
you
> are using?  Are the signals you're selling on your website generated by
nets
> trained on more than 30 data points?
>
> Kent
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BL" <blee7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] OEX Upswing
>
>
> About 90 total, 30 each.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Rollins" <kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] OEX Upswing
>
>
> > How many data points for train/test/validate, respectively?
> >
> > Kent
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "BL" <blee7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 9:08 PM
> > Subject: [RT] OEX Upswing
> >
> >
> > Based upon my swing analysis, the next upswing in the OEX market should
> > exceed the most recent upswing in price (680.03 - 642.46 = 37.57) with
> > probability of 77+% regardless of when the next Swing Low pivot is
> > determined.  This swing analysis requires a Pivot Point to be in effect
> for
> > a minimum of six consecutive days. Pink data points are daily Lows, blue
> are
> > daily Highs.  The stated probabilty is based upon train/test/validate
> neural
> > network accuracies of 82%/77%/89%, respectively.
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