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Re: [RT] Secrets of Floor Traders



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This is why for most people the e-mini makes a lot more sense. It costs
slightly more in commision to do 5 e-mini instead of 1 big sp, but that can
be more then made up for in speed of execution, lack of slippage, and the
elimination of the human element on the floor. I resisted e trading at
first, but I'd never, never go back.


----- Original Message -----
From: Howard Hopkins <hehohop@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Secrets of Floor Traders


> I know my broker desk in the S&P's tries to protect me from the type of
> example given.  Just the other day I took a stop to the market and prices
> were trading 69.50 bid 70.00.  Right when I took it to market Squawkbox
was
> quoting a 69.20 bid and a 69.20 printed.   Prices immediately went back to
> 69.50 bid and then higher.  My broker was told that I was filled at 69.20
> (the low tick of course).  Immediately he started screaming at the order
> filling that it was bullshit!  He was screaming that there was a 69.50 bid
> right next to him.  The order filler made the 69.50 good.
>
> It's nice to have someone on your side down there!
>
> Howard
>
>
> >From: Ira Tunik <irat@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [RT] Secrets of Floor Traders
> >Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:50:18 -0700
> >
> >This is illegal as can be.  Unless the rules have changed.  Ira
> >
> > > Well floor traders can "get" a license to print money. It is called
> > > standing
> > > next to a broker. It takes a long time to work your way "up" there
> > > though.
> > > Just like any profession there are only a few who make the big money
> > > and the
> > > rest run the gamut. There are big traders in the SP pit, about 8-10.
> > > They
> > > scalp and take on large positions and in the SP's can make millions of
> > >
> > > dollars a year ( though that still is chump change compared to some of
> > > the
> > > large off the floor traders) The pit traders feed off the order flow
> > > (which
> > > many use to scalp) to make their money. You can make some great money
> > > by
> > > scalping and taking on just a little risk. Many are techincal and one
> > > large
> > > trader in particualr, SIR, is steeped in Gann. He is a great trader to
> > > watch.
> > > PRS is another great trader to watch.
> > > There really are no "secrets" to speak of. You just go down there and
> > > start
> > > picking it up after a few months. The so-called "secrects" are those
> > > between
> > > the broker and the local or the "fluff" trades that the brokers give
> > > (which
> > > is why it is really nice to stand next them). Ex: of a fluff ....
> > > 1170.00 bid
> > > in the pit, both local and dealer by 1170.50 offer. You are on the O
> > > even bid
> > > also for 5 or 10. Broker says to you  "sold 10 at 9 half!" (1169.50)
> > > and then
> > > you hit the surrounding bids. Instant profit with NO RISK!!! Ahh
> > > secrects.....
> > >
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